<p>^Dude you are so lacking in so many ways it's not even funny.</p>
<p>But of course you've never needed to know the distinction between thin and thick.</p>
<p>I personally get annoyed when different races always just stick with each other...aka asian girls only date asian guys, or asian girls only hang out with each other. As you already mentioned, booo about self-segregation.</p>
<p>In doing so you limit yourself in so many ways! I have a diverse amount of friends, so I'm always comfortable with introducing myself to different kinds of people. It's sometimes weird when the other person is only used to their one type of friends and is obviously awkward about it, though.</p>
<p>I don't get annoyed if they can't help it (cultural and social barriers) ... I do get annoyed if they don't make attempts to break out of it, or actively resist cultural diffusion.</p>
<p>my roommate freshman year was asian and she had invited my to some of the asian associations club meetings and parties last year and i decided to go just for fun. I ended up having a great time, meet some really cool people. i dont really attend their meetings but i usually end up going to their parties because they are pretty fun. though...usually i am one of the few white people there if any, and almost always im the only white girl. i mean i guess theres nothing wrong with that, its just sometimes awkward, but i usually get over it because it really shouldnt matter.</p>
<p>racist much?</p>
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I'm asian myself and I despise these multicultural clubs. They just seem to be avenues to self-segregation.
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<p>Uhh, you're ASSUMING that people in those clubs don't associate w/ others who don't belong to those clubs.</p>
<p>Plus, where else are people interested in their ethnic culture, etc. supposed to congegrate?</p>
<p>And oh, I didn't attend any of those clubs when I was in school (and probably looked down upon them) - but now that I more maturity about these things, I think they do a lot of good.</p>
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I would be thrilled if people outside the usual ethnicities became interested in that culture.
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<p>Uhh, aren't you then indicting the WRONG people?</p>
<p>Shouldn't it be the (largely) white student pop. which should be indicted for not having interest (what good is schools wanting "cultural diversity" when students aren't interested)?</p>
<p>One black student pointed out to me in grad school as to why minorities are always the ones to asked to assimilate/conform?</p>
<p>And I'm saying this w/ a lifelong history of being the "token Asian friend."</p>
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No. You're not taking into account the numbers. Most of the US and most colleges are predominantly white. Thus, it is only natural to have more white friends than non-white friends; statistically, that's how it works out.
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<p>Not totally true.</p>
<p>Whites do self-segregate (let's not forget the phenomenon of "white flight") - and while race doesn't always play a role, culture certainly does.</p>
<p>Besides, how many whites are comfortable being in the minority? Those who are are pretty rare.</p>
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In short, I simply fail to see how "the white man is keeping you down". Show me ANY demonstrable evidence. The irony of it being "the white man" now, is that historically, it was never "white men"- the Italians, Irish, Polish... all actually oppressed minorities, all white.
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<p>Arbiter - are you saying we live in a race-blind society?</p>
<p>The Chinese and Japanese have been in the US as long as the Italians, Irish, etc. and I'd say things haven't improved for Chinese-Americans as much as it has for Irish-Americans.</p>
<p>And "proof"?</p>
<p>According to the US Census, the median income for Asian-Am males is LOWER than that for white males w/ the SAME education level.</p>
<p>For Asian-Am females, it is the SAME (or a bit higher) in comparison to their WF counterparts.</p>
<p>"For Asian-Am females, it is the SAME (or a bit higher) in comparison to their WF counterparts"</p>
<p>So sad, but it's true. Asian American men get shafted in the job market because certain stereotypes remain (close-mindedness, unable to speak english proficiently, rude and unrefined, low confidence, etc.) And why the hell haven't Asian American men assimilated well as Asian women? ****** Joy Luck Club. No offense to Amy Tan - it's just that her book created an unhealthy disconnect among Asian American men, women and their places in society.</p>
<p>Anyway, on point, white privilege is related to this - it's the dominant culture, so, in essence, everyday life can be assumed as the 'white club'. Don't tell me it's American and we all contribute - it's simply not true.</p>
<p>My only question in response to your post, k&s, is what is the average level of education across both groups. I'm willing to bet its substantially higher in the Asian American group (much smaller pool). A lower income for the same level of education is certainly an interesting statistic, but is that across all levels of education? Is it an average? Is the average income of As-Am males really lower than White Males?</p>
<p>And using the same argument, I'd bet you that Jews of equal education to all non Jews have a much higher average income. Is that proof of some overarching societal bias working to improve the lot of Mose's people?</p>
<p>^The income is probably lower for AA males, but it's nothing to do with education - it's more to do with stereotypes and their effect on the AA community.</p>
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Not only that, but white people who DON'T understand your culture or may have a superficial, sterotypical knowledge are not going to change their ways or learn anything if they don't have any opportunities to integrate or have diverse friends because said self-segregation just makes the atmosphere intimidating.
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<p>Well, the thing is, w/ a few exceptions, most Asians who hang out w/ whites tend to be the "bananas", "twinkies", "whitewashed", etc. - so it's not likely that whites w/ such Asian friends are going to learn anything about Thai, Korean, Viet, etc. culture.</p>
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A lower income for the same level of education is certainly an interesting statistic, but is that across all levels of education? Is it an average? Is the average income of As-Am males really lower than White Males?
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<p>Yes - it applies for those who have some college education, 4 year degree and a graduate degree.</p>
<p>It's not the avg., but the median income.</p>
<p>is it really that serious? i thought caucasians attending multi-cultural clubs really got the most out of the discussion--well if they were actively participating. i understand how it can get frustrating, but it's really an opportunity for both parties to communicate effectively.</p>
<p>To any asian in one of these clubs:</p>
<p>I'd like to join an asian club at my college (Im not asian...and Im not white either). Just wanted to know what would the ppl in the club think? Would they treat as any other member or would they avoid me because they only want to hang around their own?</p>
<p>If anyone wants to know "why"....its because I grew up in an asian-dominated city so I had only asian friends my whole life, and I've gotten used to asian culture.</p>