Another prospective Oxbridge undergraduate

<p>I’m an American high school student from Arizona looking to apply to Cambridge next fall for the three-year degree in classics. I have the requisite grades in AP Latin and will supply qualifications in Greek (those being the “essential” A-levels), but I was wondering what other AP exams it would be wise to take for Cambridge. Currently I am planning to take five this year:
Latin Literature,
Latin Vergil,
Physics C (both parts),
English Language, and
US Government and Politics.</p>

<p>In my senior year, I mean to take:
Comparative Government and Politics,
Microeconomics,
Calculus BC,
English Literature, and
German Language.</p>

<p>My school does not offer any formal AP courses, but I am taking courses or have already taken courses at a very similar standard of instruction (both level and content) in four of the five APs for this year (my physics class is Physics B level but I have a good understanding of calculus and am self studying the additional content). Next year’s exams are less certain, particularly Micro, as well as German, which I have not formally taken, although I have spent significant time in German-speaking areas of Europe.</p>

<p>More about my qualifications: I anticipate having 4-5 800s on SAT II subject tests by the date of my application (2 now, Biology and Lit), and 1-2 more scores in the 700s (1 now, American History). Predictive tests and the advice of my teachers, who are familiar with APs although they do not teach them, place me at a 5 on 4 of this year’s APs, and either a 4 or 5 on Physics C (as I mentioned earlier, I may take Physics B, on which I would certainly get a 5). I have taken college courses in Greek and am engaged in two independent research projects, one involving Greek history and the other in tragedy (which will terminate in the performance of a Greek tragedy a la the Cambridge Greek Play, translated by me).</p>

<p>Considering these qualities, I have a few questions about admissions:</p>

<li><p>Do UK students typically take A-levels outside their intended university subjects? I have no interest in pursuing science or mathematics, but I am taking AP Physics this year and Calculus the next. Will this appear to show lack of “commitment” to my subject?</p></li>
<li><p>As a consequence of 1, should I drop the quantitative exams? What arts-focused exams should I use to replace them? Should I replace them?</p></li>
<li><p>This seems silly, but will English colleges view my taking US Government & Politics with any kind of rancor? I am also taking Comparative next year. The test is largely on basic concepts in political science.</p></li>
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<p>I also have a few specific questions about internationals at Oxbridge, Oxbridge life, etc., as well as admissions.</p>

<li><p>I am extensively involved now in both sports (track and cross-country) and academic clubs and teams. I know that at the American Ivies, and even at liberal arts colleges, athletics is usually not compatible with either unusually intensive study (I plan to continue to a doctorate) or other extracurrriculars. Is this also true at Oxbridge? Can one realistically both compete in sports on a semi-serious level and participate in debate, community service, or other societies?</p></li>
<li><p>I am also vegan (i.e. I do not eat meat, fish, poulty, milk, eggs, or honey). Is vegan food easily and-or cheaply available in university areas? I assume it is not served in dining halls.</p></li>
<li><p>I have heard from friends who have studied abroad that libraries in Oxbridge close very early in the evening. Is this true? Is it necessary to purchase one’s own textbooks?</p></li>
<li><p>On a more specific note, which college at Cambridge is most friendly to American students (if anyone knows)? I will only be 17 on beginning my first term and will need to apply to a specific college.</p></li>
<li><p>On the same note, how do Oxbridge colleges view gap years by international students? As I mentioned, I will be 17 in the fall of 2009, and my birthday is not until March 31. Could I be admitted directly from high school, or should I apply with the intention of a gap year?</p></li>
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<p>I apologize for the considerable length of this post. Thank you for reading it!
Amalia</p>

<p>When you say
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My school does not offer any formal AP courses, but I am taking courses or have already taken courses at a very similar standard of instruction (both level and content)

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do you mean you are not actually going to take any actual AP exams, but are just going to tell Cambridge that you have taken equivalent courses? I don't think that will stick. They will want actual AP certificates, not grades given by a random body. Just telling them your grades are "equivalent" will mean nothing. They have no proof.</p>

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1. Do UK students typically take A-levels outside their intended university subjects?

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No they don't. Or at least scientists take all science subjects, arts students take all arts subjects. Sometimes they take one extra outside their area, often a language. </p>

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I have no interest in pursuing science or mathematics, but I am taking AP Physics this year and Calculus the next. Will this appear to show lack of "commitment" to my subject?

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No, but they will probably completely disregard these grades in any "offer" made to you. (so the good news is you don't have to take calculus if you're not a scientist. No UK arts students do)</p>

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2. As a consequence of 1, should I drop the quantitative exams? What arts-focused exams should I use to replace them? Should I replace them?

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I think taking these subjects will show you are a well-rounded student, especially since you do not have any examination evidence of general education (which UK students have from taking GCSE exams in lots of subjects aged 16, before they specialise). However, if studying calculus is going to stress you out or affect your relevant subjects, you are unlikely to be much affected by dropping them in my opinion. However, I am NOT an admissions tutor.</p>

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3. This seems silly, but will English colleges view my taking US Government & Politics with any kind of rancor? I am also taking Comparative next year. The test is largely on basic concepts in political science.

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Since you're not applying to study history or politics, they will probably ignore it. Your interview will be about Classics, nothing else. I think you are worrying too much over little details here you know!</p>

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Can one realistically both compete in sports on a semi-serious level and participate in debate, community service, or other societies?

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Yes, debate is big. Google Cambridge Union society. At any British university in the first week there is a "freshers fair" where new students go along and sign up for "societies" which are social clubs you can join, for any subject. Some are free, most have a small cost. There are zillions of these groups, some religious, some political groups, some hobbies and many many sports organisations. Sports are played at the college level (college vs colleges teams and tournaments) and more seriously at the university level. You have no doubt heard of the boat race, and rowing is by far the most popular sport. However, though a few Olympics rowers are hanging about, the vast majority of students who take part have never rowed before enrolling at the university. I think if you intend to compete at a uni level sport, or be president of the union, then probably you will only have time for this one EC. But otherwise join lots. Most people do.</p>

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2. I am also vegan (i.e. I do not eat meat, fish, poulty, milk, eggs, or honey). Is vegan food easily and-or cheaply available in university areas? I assume it is not served in dining halls.

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Well fruit and vegetables are available from the supermarket and market. What else do you need? Despite the fact that most Americans seem to believe Britain lives on something akin to WW2 rations, this isn't true and you can easily get things like peanut butter in the supermarket (look at Online</a> Grocery Shopping & Delivery Service - Tesco.com It's like the evil WalMart of Europe). If you get in you would have to ask for a room with self-catering facilities, as not all college halls have this (but the vast majority do). There is always a vegetarian option at college meal times, but I suspect this is rarely vegan. At a formal meal just tell the chef and they will cook you something special. My friend is highly allergic to many things and this is what she does, without any major problems. </p>

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3. I have heard from friends who have studied abroad that libraries in Oxbridge close very early in the evening. Is this true? Is it necessary to purchase one's own textbooks?

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Opening</a> hours
Main library opening hours link. Most college libraries are open 24 hours, and you get a desk and internet connection in your (single) room so you can work all night if you really want. Did your friends study here in the summer? Out of term time everything closes early. Generally you do not have to buy your own textbooks as the library will have them all. As a scientist I think I've bought 2 in 7 years in England (undergrad at Cambridge, graduate at Oxford and York).... However, arts students seem to like to have their own copies so they can annotate them. Some richer colleges provide book grants to pay for this.</p>

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4. On a more specific note, which college at Cambridge is most friendly to American students (if anyone knows)? I will only be 17 on beginning my first term and will need to apply to a specific college.

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There isn't a great number of Americans at any specific college, and I'm not American, so I can't really help you there. Being 17 is a much bigger issue. You may not have much choice. </p>

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5. On the same note, how do Oxbridge colleges view gap years by international students? As I mentioned, I will be 17 in the fall of 2009, and my birthday is not until March 31. Could I be admitted directly from high school, or should I apply with the intention of a gap year?

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I would highly recommend a gap year as being 17 will limit your college options and some college will force you to take one as a condition of acceptance. Gap years are completely the norm in England and employers also like them.</p>

<p>try a UK version of this site for your questions
<a href="http://www"&gt;www&lt;/a>. thestudent room .co .uk
remove the spaces</p>

<p>I'm sorry, things must have been a bit unclear. I <em>am</em> taking the AP exams in May. I simply don't have any courses labeled "AP such-and-such". Is this unclear? Would it disadvantage my application?</p>

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I'm sorry, things must have been a bit unclear. I <em>am</em> taking the AP exams in May. I simply don't have any courses labeled "AP such-and-such". Is this unclear? Would it disadvantage my application?

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As long as you are taking the exams and get the grades, it doesn't matter when you take them. It also doesn't matter if you studied for 10 years or 5 minutes. It's just the actual exam grades that count. You don't need to explain any course you have taken that are irrelevant. Most students get a "conditional offer" based on grades they have yet to receive anyway. This is the norm for all UK unis because A-level students don't get their final grades till August. They make 11 offers for every 10 places, so some people do miss grades and get rejected at a late stage.</p>

<p>Hey,</p>

<p>I am a Cambridge student.
Let's see.</p>

<p>Your first question concerned sports and societies. Both are a big issue here at Cambridge; as cupcake pointed out, the Cambridge Union is a really great at debates and speeches. They're the oldest debating society in Europe and have brought some great speakers (including both important scientists and politicians; for example, last Wednesday Stephen Hawking gave a speech and I was able to take a picture with him :)).</p>

<p>Second question concerning vegetarian food: no problem I guess. Here at King's (my college), you can always choose to have vegetarian food.</p>

<p>Third question: your friends totally lied. Libraries are open 24 a day (and are actually used, even in the night/morning).</p>

<p>I have no idea about which colleges are more friendly to Americans. I do know that we have an American student in our year, though.</p>

<p>And lastly, gap years are looked upon very favourably. I wouldn't recommend coming to Cambridge if you're under 18. It makes party life a lot more difficult. Most people are 18+.</p>