Anthropology Schools?

<p>Hi there,
My daughter is only going to be a HS freshman but already looking at colleges. She ultimatly wants to be a Forensic Anthropologist. She's been doing research on the career and schooling required already. I can see her doing it, she is that head strong. So she is thinking she should get a BS in Phyiscal Anthropology. Does anyone have suggestions on that? We are having a hard time finding schools in MI with that degree. Most will have a basic anthro degree with no emphasis, or if they do it's not physical. Due to cost we want to stay in state if at all possible and beginning to realize that may not be possible. So, does anyone know any schools in MI with good anthor programs? How about in the MI, IN, IL, OH, or TN area? Tips on finding the schools would be appreciated too.</p>

<p>Thanx,
Michelle</p>

<p>The University of Michigan is one of the top schools in the country for anthropology. It tied for first place in the National Research Council’s last published assessment of graduate anthropology programs (NRC-95). However, it is way too early for you to be worried about picking schools especially for such a specific interest. Next month your daughter may decide she wants to be an investment banker.</p>

<p>I hear the University of Michigan-Ann Arbor has a decent Anthropology department. This said, I would assume that there aren’t many universities that provide such a specialized concentration as Physical Anthropology to undergrads…nor should they. This sort of focus at the undergraduate level does not make sense.</p>

<p>You guys have given insight about specilization. We are not trying to pick a school yet. We are just trying to find good schools that offer anthropolgy programs. In school last year they started doing research into careers and colleges. She is trying to get a leg up on some of the work that will need to be done for her Freshman Focus class in high school next fall. </p>

<p>So, I take it at the undergrad level the Anthro degree is broad based so they get a well rounded education in the area. After that the areas of concentration come. Am I correct?</p>

<p>As for U of M. We were just there last week and that’s what got all this started for looking for colleges earlier than in her class. I know MSU has a good program and is supposedly better than U of M, but how do I find out? How do we find other schools that offer Antrho programs?</p>

<p>Beloit College has one of the top anthropology departments in the nation</p>

<p>“I hear the University of Michigan-Ann Arbor has a decent Anthropology department.” </p>

<p>Alexandre, the OP is a new member to CC. The sarcasm in the above statement would be lost on her.</p>

<p>mjmgrcc, your daughter’s stats are going to be quite important when selecting schools. It’s difficult to choose schools without knowing roughly where she stands in terms of GPA and test scores (SAT or ACT). For this reason, it’s very early to start looking, even in the broadest and most general terms. At the undergraduate level (or graduate!), there is no such thing as a “best” program, only what’s best for you - and that could change easily depending on various factors.</p>

<p>She’s probably going to need at least a MA/MS in biological/physical or forensic anthropology to obtain work in that field. Many, many schools send students to excellent programs in these areas; I’m currently studying at a not-very-good fourth-tier public, and one of my good friends is starting such a graduate program in the fall. </p>

<p>When you do start the process, preferably in a couple years, here’s a few pointers…</p>

<p>As with many posters, you’re going about the process of college selection somewhat backwards. I would first create a tentative list of school based on the following factors:

[ul][<em>]Public or private?
[</em>]Small (<2000 students), medium (2000-10,000), and/or large (10,000+)?
[<em>]Rural, suburban, and/or urban?
[</em>]Is financial aid a concern?
[<em>]Are special factors (e.g. disabilities support or strong LGBT community) needed?
[</em>]Should certain extracurriculars be available (e.g. fencing or Model UN)?[/ul]</p>

<p>Once you have your tentative list, you can start evaluating the strength of the anthropology departments. Long-time poster Carolyn posted an excellent way to do so [in</a> this thread](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1822982-post4.html]in”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1822982-post4.html).</p>

<p>I would also recommend checking out the following books, some of which your local library may have:
[Fiske</a> Guide to Colleges 2010](<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Fiske-Guide-Colleges-2010-26E/dp/1402209606]Fiske”>http://www.amazon.com/Fiske-Guide-Colleges-2010-26E/dp/1402209606)
[The</a> Insider’s Guide to the Colleges, 2010](<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Insiders-Guide-Colleges-2010-Students/dp/0312570295/ref=pd_sim_b_1]The”>http://www.amazon.com/Insiders-Guide-Colleges-2010-Students/dp/0312570295/ref=pd_sim_b_1)
[Rugg’s</a> Recommendations on the Colleges](<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Ruggs-Recommendations-College-27th-Colleges/dp/1883062764/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276527352&sr=1-1]Rugg’s”>http://www.amazon.com/Ruggs-Recommendations-College-27th-Colleges/dp/1883062764/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276527352&sr=1-1)</p>

<p>All of that said…

[ul][<em>]tk21769 is correct that Michigan has an excellent anthropology program. It has about a half dozen researchers concentrating in biological/physical anthropology (more if you include primatology), which is a fairly good number. With in-state tuition, it’s a bargain.
[</em>]Beloit would be a poor choice. Their program focuses almost entirely on sociocultural anthro and archaeology.
[<em>]For forensic anthropology, there is no better place to be than [UT</a> Knoxville](<a href=“http://web.utk.edu/~anthrop/majors.html]UT”>http://web.utk.edu/~anthrop/majors.html) and its infamous [“body</a> farm.”](<a href=“http://web.utk.edu/~fac/]"body”>http://web.utk.edu/~fac/) If she can get into Michigan, Tennessee should be fairly easy to get into. Financial aid would be very slim for an out-of-state student, however, making it a better option for graduate school than undergraduate.
[</em>]Boston U has recently started a forensic anthropology program that promises to be quite good - it would be worth checking out. Its anthro program is quite good, as is the associated archaeology program (the only free-standing archaeology department in the US). Boston U has long been generous with merit scholarships, so it may be more affordable than one might think, if her grades and scores are good enough.
[*]Among the elites, Duke arguably has the strongest [biological</a> anthropology program](<a href=“http://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/]biological”>http://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/), which is a separate department (and major). It focuses more on human/primate evolution, anatomy, and ecology, however, than forensics.[/ul]</p>

<p>^^^^Michigan is “among the elites” too I might add. Certainly just as elite academically, if not moreso, than Duke.</p>

<p>rjk,</p>

<p>I agree that Duke and Michigan are peer institutions, so as usual there is no need to be so defensive. In terms of the best bang for the buck, Michigan would almost certainly be the best option, as I noted above. In terms of quality, however, Duke is slightly stronger than Michigan in biological anthropology and has unique resources like an extremely large fossil collection and the primate center, which includes species found nowhere else but Madagascar.* Several of my BAA professors (such as Elwyn Simons) were members of the National Academy of Sciences or holders of various other awards in the field of biological anthropology. For a student interested in some of the other subfields of anthropology - such as archaeology - Michigan is quite a bit stronger than Duke. It all depends on what one wishes to do.</p>

<p>*While there are a few other primate centers, they are primarily animal testing facilities funded by NIH.</p>

<p>“So, I take it at the undergrad level the Anthro degree is broad based so they get a well rounded education in the area. After that the areas of concentration come. Am I correct?”</p>

<p>That is correct. Of course, undergrads can specialize to an extent, but it is always best to get a broad understanding of one’s chosen field of study.</p>

<p>“I know MSU has a good program and is supposedly better than U of M, but how do I find out? How do we find other schools that offer Antrho programs?”</p>

<p>mjmgrcc, the University of Michigan department of Anthropology is almost always ranked #1 in the nation, so I very much doubt that MSU’s department is better.</p>

<p>Below are a couple of links to some of the nation’s top research Anthropology departments:</p>

<p>[Where</a> to obtain the best anthropology degrees - by John W. Paulus - Helium](<a href=“http://www.helium.com/items/952630-where-to-obtain-the-best-anthropology-degrees]Where”>http://www.helium.com/items/952630-where-to-obtain-the-best-anthropology-degrees)</p>

<p>[url=<a href=“http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/area35.html]NRC”>NRC Rankings in Anthropology]NRC</a> Rankings in Anthropology<a href=“this%20is%2015%20years%20old”>/url</a></p>

<p>Among non-PhD granting institutions, the following Anthropology departments are highly regarded:</p>

<p>Alma College
Beloit College
Connecticut College
Dartmouth College
Lewis and Clark College
Mills College
Millsaps College
New College of Florida
Reed College
Swarthmore College
Bowdoin College</p>

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<em>Cue list of universities with NAS members here</em> ;)</p>

<p>^^^^hehe…</p>

<p>Due to cost we want to stay in state if at all possible and beginning to realize that may not be possible. So, does anyone know any schools in MI with good anthor programs? How about in the MI, IN, IL, OH, or TN area? Tips on finding the schools would be appreciated too.</p>

<p>You’re lucky that UMich has a good program.</p>

<p>Since your D is only a freshmen in high school, then she has time to make sure she gets top grades and (hopefully) top SAT/ACT scores which could make going OOS more affordable thru scholarships and such.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that many, many students have high GPAs. The smaller pool of students that have both high GPAs and high SAT or ACT scores are the ones that can get big scholarships to schools that offer them.</p>

<p>Gourman Report ranking for undergraduate anthropology:</p>

<p>Michigan
Chicago
Berkeley
Penn
Arizona
Stanford
Yale
UCLA
Harvard
Northwestern
Texas Austin
New Mexico
Cornell
Illinois UC
Columbia
UC SB
U Washington
U Mass Amherst
Wisconsin
U Fla
Penn St
Pitt
Duke
Rutgers NB
Indiana Bloom
Hawaii Manoa
UC Irvine
UNC CH
UVA
SUNY Buffalo
Arizona St
Brandeis
UC Davis
Colorado Boulder
Tulane
NYU
Princeton
Washington St Louis
U Conn
Bryn Mawr
U Oregon
UC Riverside
U Minnesota
Brown
Southern Methodist
U Kansas
Missouri Columbia</p>

<p>I am not familiar with Anthropology rankings but it seems that several of the previous posters are. However, in case you are not aware of it, Michigan does participate in the Midwest Student Exchange Program. With the program you would pay 150% of instate rates for participating schools in Wisconsin, North Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, Minnesota and Indiana. You do need to verify the major program you are interested in is covered for that school. Some of the schools mentioned above (U Minn, U Kansas, U Missouri) do participate. It would at least give you some affordable options should your daughter decide she wants to go outside of Michigan.
[MHEC</a> : Student Access: Midwest Student Exchange Program (1)](<a href=“http://www.mhec.org/MidwestStudentExchangeProgram]MHEC”>http://www.mhec.org/MidwestStudentExchangeProgram)</p>

<p>To meet her goals, she should focus on her performance in school, and her rigor of coursework. She can also get involved in related Extra Curricular activities. While any Science EC that takes her interest is good, she might find some more specific ones.</p>

<p>Also, if she qualifies, CTY is a good resource.
[Summer</a> Programs](<a href=“http://cty.jhu.edu/summer/index.html]Summer”>On-Campus Overview | Johns Hopkins Center for Talented Youth (CTY))
They have excellent classes in various locations (a friend’s dd is going to a 3 week camp in CA this summer.) Also, the magazine is excellent. It highlights a different discipline each month, and includes a college profile, articles by students up through grad school and professionals about work in that area. The is info on how to get more involved. You can backorder volume 8 #2 archeology & Anthropology. They also have an issue on Paleontology and this would be a good EC too–amateurs can get involved.</p>

<p>Instead of spending time prematurely researching colleges, she’d be better off learning about the field and related areas as an EC.</p>

<p>CTY does have an interesting forensics course. I’m sure they have various Anthro courses.
<a href=“http://www.cty.jhu.edu/summer/docs/syllabi/exam_1.pdf[/url]”>http://www.cty.jhu.edu/summer/docs/syllabi/exam_1.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>That said, this site has a link to schools for forensic anthro:
[Forensic</a> Anthropology Information Guide](<a href=“http://www.all-about-forensic-science.com/forensic-anthropology.html]Forensic”>Forensic Anthropology Information and Resources)</p>

<p>Can we please stop citing the Gourman Report? Not only is it well over a decade old, but it was completely flawed (as all these things inevitably are) when it was published. The best way to go about this is to find a school that fits her academically, financially and socially. Ignore these posters that only want to tout their own schools, undergraduate rankings of departments is almost totally worthless compared to picking the best overall school for her various needs. The fact that you are in Michigan is fortunate because Michigan is of course a great school for many things. But maybe she won’t want Big State U, in which case the search requires answering the kinds of questions Warbler mentions.</p>

<p>You hit it on the nose in post #4. There are literally 100+ schools where she can get a fine BS degree in anthropology with a strong background. If at that point she still thinks Forensic Anthropology is for her, doing well at any of a number of academically strong schools will set her up well for grad school, which she will need to advance in that field. Knowing where to go for grad school will be clearer to her at that point based on her acquired knowledge of the field, the advice of her professors, and any particular subspecialization she might have decided to focus on.</p>