<p>Well if you want me to break it all the way down to simple genetics, I will. Men are the stronger gender. In addition, they are not only strong in a physical sense, but emotionally as well. Hilary has already broke down in tears what... twice? It shows weakness. Females are weaker than men.</p>
<p>Now beside the technicalities, look back through generations of leaders. Back to the ancient times and onward. The majority of leaders are men. It's just the way it is. Why must woman interfere? They are too sensitive.</p>
<p>WHAT? Oh my gosh. Men can be stonger physically. But i know a lot of women that are physically stronger than me...</p>
<p>Emotion is not weakness. Hilary's so-called display of weakness was a display of her compassion and ability to sympathize...</p>
<p>There have in fact been great woman leaders. Queen Elizabeth I was one of the strongest leaders in Renaissance Europe FYI. Look at Margaret Thatcher, the "Iron Lady" who helped bring down the Cold War!</p>
<p>"Men are the stronger gender" is like the most stereotypical statement I have ever heard...</p>
<p>Hilary's so-called display of weakness was a display of her compassion and ability to sympathize...</p>
<p>actually that was weakness...pure weakness..I am not going to say women in general or anything are weaker or anything like that..but those tears were pure weakness...</p>
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men think logically, which isn't necessarily bad, but going into a decision based purely on logic, isn't always good if you don't use your compassion and think using your heart...
and i don't think feminism is an idea only for women. why can't men be in support of rights for women!? LOL..
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You say you're a feminist yet you're promoting stereotypes about females? Many females are less compassionate, more competitive, etc. than most males.</p>
<p>Females leaders do not get to leadership positions by acting compasionate; they get there by acting like stereotypical men seeking leadership positions do: by being competitive, and sometimes even ruthless. In terms of this election, Barack Obama is by far the most compassionate of all the candidates. Nothing in Hillary Clinton's campaign indicates that she will show compassion. Her tactics are absolutely ruthless, she doesn't care if a family can afford to purchase health care in her plan, she's willing to withdraw from Iraq even if that means a genocide will take place, she's been utilizing smear tactics against Obama, etc. What in there makes you think that she will be a compassionate ruler? The lady says her greatest strength is being a fighter and she constantly belittles Obama's message of using cooperation to solve problems. I think you are mistaken if you think Hillary Clinton, who is at the moment running a "scorch the earth" campaign against Obama, is going to be a compassionate leader.</p>
<p>Think of it this way, until we change our definition of a leader, which Obama is trying to do, our definition of a leader will be based on someone who is tough, competitive, a fighter, etc. Essentially all things associated with being masculine. Hillary Clinton is not trying to change the definition of a leader; she is running on being a tough, competitive, fighter. She is buying into society's stereotypical definition of what it means to be a leader to win this election. I honestly don't think that her winning election on that platform is a victory for feminism. Her win would be suggesting that if girls want to get ahead they have to "play like boys do." (Personally, I think that concepts like what a leader is should be gender neutral.)</p>
<p>I'm simply making a point. I don't have radical beliefs toward this view, I'm just playing a bit of biased devil's advocate. </p>
<p>Queen Elizabeth I was an extraordinary woman. </p>
<p>I am a woman myself. </p>
<p>However, I have strong dislike toward Hilary, and that fact that she is a woman further downplays her persona, in my opinion.</p>
<p>To begin with, the is issue regarding women and their ability to be president. I was never talking about Hilary until someone else brought it up...</p>
<p>I never said that she could be compassionate but not be competitive. She cried on national television...I think that shows some compassion. Whether or not those tears were a farce is a different story...In the context, she was upset about a current situation..</p>
<p>I don't get compassion from Obama...sorry.</p>
<p>I am not promoting stereotypes against women!!! What in the world are you talking about??? Katcarp2 said that women are the lesser gender. THAT is a stereotype.</p>
<p>EDIT: Katcarp, that makes sense. I am not a fan of Hilary myself, but it is not because of her gender. I was just being fair to women, because I believe that they are of equal ability as men.</p>
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I don't get compassion from Obama...sorry.
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Why not? Unlike Hillary, he is willing to risk his political campaign by making it clear that he will not withdraw troops from Iraq if it appears that doing so would be harmful to the Iraqi people i.e. large scale ethnic killing. Hillary has been saying that she'll withdraw troops no matter what. (She's probably going to clarify this tomorrow.) Where is the compassion there? She's saying that if she knew there was a risk that a genocide would occur she wouldn't do anything about it. Is that compassion?</p>
<p>Well, I guess so.</p>
<p>But regardless. I was never talking about Hilary, except for when someone else mentioned that she cried. In the context, that showed compassion!</p>
<p>But also, I just saw that you edited your post about the role of a leader being masculine. That is true, look at Elizabeth I like I mentioned, she never married (sort of a symbol of femininity I suppose). And Margaret Thatcher, the "Iron Lady". Women can fake a masculine role, but underneath their very masculine exterior, they are still women...They think like women, and behave like women...</p>
<p>So despite Hilary's tough exterior, I think we have seen her more feminine and compassionate moments.</p>
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Now beside the technicalities, look back through generations of leaders. Back to the ancient times and onward. The majority of leaders are men. It's just the way it is. Why must woman interfere? They are too sensitive.
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<p>You already mentioned Queen Elizabeth. How about the Iroquois matriarchies, or the Candaces of Nubia (one of whom defeated Alexander the Great), or any of the significant number of modern nations who have elected or appointed women in executive leadership positions: Germany, Ireland, New Zealand, Finland, Switzerland, India, and in the past: the UK, Norway, Pakistan, South Korea, Israel....</p>
<p>here try some reading:
List</a> of elected or appointed female heads of state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
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But regardless. I was never talking about Hilary, except for when someone else mentioned that she cried. In the context, that showed compassion!
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I disagree. It had nothing to do with her being compassionate. She merely showed that she was sad she was losing. The only reason why that was a "plus" for her is because people accuse her of being calculated and lacking emotions.</p>
<p>Oh well, nevermind then. Yeah that shows weakness...haha!</p>
<p>"Well if you want me to break it all the way down to simple genetics, I will. Men are the stronger gender. In addition, they are not only strong in a physical sense, but emotionally as well. Hilary has already broke down in tears what... twice? It shows weakness. Females are weaker than men."</p>
<p>Everybody is entitled to their opinion. That's why America is the country it is. BUT, I just want to bring this point up. Yes, a lot of people think men are "stronger." But, take for instance relationships, women CAN be the dominant force. There are some lesbians I know that could kick a man's ass in the blink of an eye and still have enough oomph left over to rule a country (figuratively.) I don't know why you let yourself believe that stereotype.<br>
Plus, crying...we all do it..we're all human...it's not like someone put plastic seals over our eyes to prevent us from shedding raw emotion.<br>
There just are some people who refuse to believe a woman COULD actually do this better than a man...--could-- being the key word--...but we still have to wait a mere 8 more months to discover our country's fate.</p>
<p>Obama had an amazing speech yesterday...though I'd point that out....</p>
<p>Yeah that was pretty good I Will admit...However...I think he either lied in this speech or the speech on CNN (interview) the other day...when he said he had nothing wrong with his preacher...and then denounces him today? Um...kind of suspicious lol.</p>
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Yeah that was pretty good I Will admit...However...I think he either lied in this speech or the speech on CNN (interview) the other day...when he said he had nothing wrong with his preacher...and then denounces him today? Um...kind of suspicious lol.
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You're over simplifying it. If you listen to his actual words you will understand that he is "denouncing" the remarks, not the man.</p>
<p>EDIT:
Hillary finally published the papers today. Pretty good timing since it will give her some time to do damage control.</p>
<p>William</a> J. Clinton Presidential Library</p>
<p>uuuuggghh...if Clinton wins....can someone please send me a ticket out of herre?</p>
<p>I second that. </p>
<p>I plan on going into the medical field and if she implements some BS universal health care, well there goes the big bucks I will be presumably making.</p>
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I plan on going into the medical field and if she implements some BS universal health care, well there goes the big bucks I will be presumably making.
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Universal Healthcare is in the interest of doctors.
1.) You'll still make more money than everyone else. :)
2.) Reduced paper work.
3.) No/less dealing with insurance companies.
4.) You can focus more on just treating people.
5.) Care for patients more efficiently.
There are other advantages but these are the only ones I can think of. My dad's a wealthy doctor and he supports it.</p>
<p>ummmm...the fact that your dad's ALREADY wealthy, explains it all. No matter what you say, doctors will take a significant pay cut compared to what they make now if Clinton goes through with it.</p>
<p>anyone else think those snl sketches were SPOT ON and hilarious? and also, i consider myself to be pretty forgiving and fair, and i dont really believe in hell. but when i saw that man at hillary's speech holding a sign that said 'iron my shirt', well i decided i would not mind seeing him get paper cutted repeatedly and then attacked by a hungry bear</p>