<p>83-Avg. My schools does not do GPA.
151/295. Very good High School.
No APs but about half of my classes are honors.
650- Math SAT
470- Critical Reading
480- Writing
^Will be taking them in Sept or Oct to get hopefully above 550 on Critical Reading and Writing.
1120/1600- Two Parts
1600/2400- Three Parts
Extracurricular- Varsity Soccer, that's it sadly.
Community Service- 50 Hours total, Local Library and my churches summer camp.
I want to study Engineering in College.</p>
<p>I think your GPA, low class rank and no APs on top of the low CR puts you at a reach at best. You might have a chance if you have a hook to explain that info away. I can’t see engineering, and in honesty, you need a very strong math background to survive engineering.</p>
<p>I have the math back round to get through engineering it just weather or not I can get into a top engineering school, I should be in the top 50 kids in my class by I screwed around in high school, they gave us like our middle school class rank at the end just so we could know where we stood and i was 46, I know that I am smart enough , but I don’t know if i have a good enough work ethic.</p>
<p>If you have doubts about your work ethic than you need to re-think your future. Maybe you have yet to find something that you have a desire to achieve. Engineering is more than having the math background, if you don’t like it, or your work ethic comes into play, you will find yourself failing very quickly. It is not easy, too many kids enter this program because they have a math background and can’t think of doing anything else. Find something you want to do for the next decade and get a degree in that. There are tons of majors that will make you have a positive work ethic because you want to do it. Start to think about what you like to do…love to watch all sports, but not athletic, what about PR? Love politics, go govt. Love photography, what about photo journalism. Great at math, what about accounting? Like looking at how things work or are built what about architecture over mech or civil engineering?</p>
<p>To add on, even if you took class rank, you still need to explain why the SAT CR is so low, and no APS. They look at the entire package, and you need to explain to the admissions why yor recs look the way they do…crappy work ethic won’t cut it, especially if you say I don’t know even now if I have a good enough work ethic…NOT VERY COMFORTING TO THE ADMISSIONS.</p>
<p>UMDCP had 29K+ applicants last year, this is the time you sell yourself on why they should take the chance on you!</p>
<p>The other thing to realize most of the applicants will have at least a few APs, and what they don’t have in AP it is honors. For example, my DD (not applying to UMD) has only 1 class that is not AP, ICSCE or honors, it is gym! Also has been that way since she was in 9th grade. You will be going up with kids that have the same gpa, but all of their courses are honors, AP/IB or ICSCE. Sorry I am Johnny Raincloud. Just remember the only way not to be accepted is to not apply!</p>
<p>Your chances for getting into engineering are basically zero. But, you can always transfer into it if you get into the school at large.</p>
<p>I also suspect you might be unlikely to get in as a Fall general admit, especially considering the 400 SATs. MD is not super but 400s are just too low…I can see someone getting in with 600s and a 500 outlier or something but 400 is just…bad. No offense. Perhaps you just don’t test well. I got a 580 on my math section the first time, then pulled it up to a 710. So you could have had an off day. Finally, your GPA and class rank are low for having no APs. I don’t think all MD students took APs (most probably took one or two) but low 3.something is below average even without considering the fact that you didn’t take the most challenging course load. </p>
<p>I think your best bet is Spring admit at MD, which is not too bad, but you may not even get that if you don’t bump your SAT scores up fairly substantially or you have some other hook factor (URM, etc.). Your Stats are not typical of UMCP students; most with those stats go to other state universities, such as UMBC (though even there avg. scores are higher than yours), Towson, etc.</p>
<p>Like bullet said the only way to not get in for SURE is to not apply. So apply, write some really convincing essays, get a great rec, you never know what can happen. But unfortunately screwing around in HS has negative consequences :(.</p>
<p>Your math score IS fairly typical of an engineering student (though many have much higher, but 650 ain’t too shabby), but again, your other scores/your GPA/lack of honors is really going to hurt you getting into the school at large. I do think you have the brains but maybe if you really wanted to go to MD you would do better to transfer after a year or two with good marks from a lesser state uni/community college/etc. to prove that you have the work ethic to go along with it.</p>
<p>Also, it looks like you will be applying OOS, and since there is a limit on how many OOS admits, and since NY/NJ are the two areas OVER-represented in the OOS applicants, that will have an impact on your chances. You should apply, but consider it a reach. Also, it seems like the engineering school is really competitive…I agree that you’re not likely to get admitted directly into the engineering program…you would probably have to transfer into it. I’m not sure the full-price OOS tuition would be worth it, since your stats probably don’t put you in line for any merit $$. I agree w/ UMCP11’s suggestion of maybe trying to transfer after proving your work ethic and abilities locally.</p>
<p>Is there merit money available for OOS students?</p>
<p>Not understanding your comments about the NY/NJ. Is there a quota on students admitted from particular regions of the US?</p>
<p>We will be coming from Louisiana. Not sure how many students will apply from here to there. </p>
<p>Husband works often in Bethesda, and sister lives in Virginia, so would be a comfortable school for parents and child.</p>
<p>There are scholarships for OOS students and they are typically easier to receive than in-state scholarships, and for more money (because OOS costs more, naturally, so they must bump up what they offer). I don’t know if this policy has changed in recent yrs, but when I was a freshman I met many OOS students and it seemed generally easier to get more money for them. Ultimately they might end up paying more than an in-state student on scholarship, but I still feel it’s quite generous for the kids with good stats. </p>
<p>I don’t know that there is a quota per se, but admissions people do look for “diversity.” Therefore an OOS applicant from Louisiana WOULD have a slight edge on one from NY/NJ, all other things equal. There IS a quota on how many OOS students are accepted IN GENERAL I believe, or a loose one at least (some percentage of the student body). And that number is less than the cut-off for in-state students, of course, since it is a state school and meant to serve the residents of MD, making OOS slightly more competitive for admission overall.</p>