<p>hi this is my first time on this forum. i am a canadian student currently in probably the top academic program in Canada - tops program. i am in gr.11 and my average is about ~88-90 ish. i really want to apply (and hopefully get accepted :S) to the following universities:
- cornell
- columbia
- brown
- duke
- mit
- chicago
- johns hopkins
- u of m: ann arbor
- stanford
- princeton</p>
<p>i was wondering which of these i would most likely get accepted into, with the following:
- average: 88-90
- rank: no ranking but probably upper mid
- courses: ap calc, ap eng, ap phys, all enriched sciences, math, and english
- 2 international language courses
- extracurriculars: all canadian math competitions, DEEP engineering camp at University of Toronto (Toronto, ON, Canada), humanity club, Canada Wide Science Fair participant and winner, Virtual Science Fair participant and winner, Free the Children Volunteer, Participating in International Trip to Mexico/Arizona for helping needy children, and numerous smaller ones. tennis club, sanofi aventis biotech competition, and volunteering with the program i am in, tutoring etc.</p>
<p>is there ne hope of being accepted, and possibly getting some money (scholarship, bursaries). also any advice for wut i shud do will be gladly accepted for my final year.
edit: wut sat score should i hope for...is a 720-750 avg good enough...o and btw i want to apply to engineering or life sci in any of these</p>
<p>Most of those schools expect you to be in the top 10% of your class, top 25% if your school requireds a test to bget in and has average SATs above 1350. Aim for a 2250 for the top schools. For schools where you will have a good chance, look at school where your GPA and scores are at or above the 75th percentile.</p>
<p>there are no rankings in my program...but its a selective program for 60 students...we are among the top in canada i guess...but within the program i am i wud say top 25%...</p>
<p>Make sure the information about your program is in the app (your counselor will prob do this.) Also, get some safeties that you like. Good luck!</p>
<p>oh the schools you listed U of M is probably the highest acceptance rating, and it is rolling admissions i believe so that would be a good bet. I am in Cornell and it really makes a difference which college <em>within</em> the university you apply to: for example Arts and Sciences accepts only ~15% per year while International Labor Relations accepts ~27%. these are just examples from Cornell, but ofcourse it is reflected in all other schools too. Just something to keep in mind.</p>
<p>I would put a few match and safety schools into the mix. Unfortunately, most the colleges you list are reaches for ANYONE, since the acceptance process gets more competitive with each passing year.</p>
<p>As far as finances go, most of those schools (with maybe the exception of UM) don't offer scholarships. If you qualify for need-based financial aid, that's the only way you'd be getting any significant money at most of these schools.</p>
<p>The Canadian grading system is a bit different from the American 4.0 standard. You can't equate 88-90% to 3.3-3.4 on the 4.0 scale. Each of the colleges you mentioned should have your school's profile at their disposal, so essentially you should be competing against applicants with similar backgrounds as you. </p>
<p>You mentioned that the program does not rank, but does your school only offer this program and not the main stream courses? Or is it a combination of both. You should be able to get your percentile from your guidance councellor.</p>
<p>You should gather information regarding the admission decisions for the grade 12s this year, this way you get a better idea of where you stand. Due to the variety of programs offered nowadays, it's hard for us to analyze your chances, but do aim for 2200+ on your SAT ones.</p>
<p>whats the class toppers average? aAnd equating an 88 to 3.3 is nuts.. in my school, the guy who graduated first had a 84%... that will thus be a 4.0 not any less</p>
<p>hey thanks for all the posts...:S ireally want to go to cornell amongst there...but my school has approximately 2400 kids out of this only 60 of us are doing SIGNIFICANTLY more advanced courses than the rest..</p>
<p>I think the Canadian % system is similiar to the British ... with an 88-90 in the UK your American GPA would be around a 3.75-3.8. You should check with your school though, it could be different, and it will depend on your curriculum.</p>
<p>Since you are not a US Citizen, you will be considered an international applicant. For some of the schools on your list, international applicants are considered separately and may even have maximums or quotas for admissions making international admissions way harder than domestic. Also financial aid is not always easy to come by as an international at these schools. So in addition to thinking about whether you would qualify at each of them, study their websites carefully to understand their admissions, application, and financial aid practices for internationals. Good luck!</p>
<p>My best guess would be u would be accepted at michigan, cornell, and chicago, but the others would be much harder (note that u of chicago has amazing physics and bio programs, but no school of engineering)
Also: University of Illinois has a better Engineering program than michigan or any of the ivys (u of i is #4 for engineering in the country) and is easier to get into than MIT</p>
<p>thnk u (lol that gave me some hope)...how much shud i expect to pay including residence every year...and is there ne guarantee i can pay this at the end of recieving let's say a masters degree from these universities...how sure is it that i can get a job</p>
<p>Some of these posts! mYou're OK with anything over a 3.0???"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At many need blind schools, Canadians are considered the same as Americans, so you coul;d get financial aid. Otherwise, these schools are over $50K Canadian/yr, and they won't loan you that much, your parents will have to take the loans. Also, as my Canadian cousins found out after graduating from Harvard, it's unlikely you'll get to work in the US after graduation. A company will have to sponsor you, and very few go though the trouble and expense unless you have some skill set they can't find an American with.</p>
<p>As for the ivy schools, canadian applicants receive the same needblind financial aid benefits as their american counterparts. </p>
<p>Also, you don't seem to stand out that much. That's a big problem especially at the ivies. They want people who have a passion for a specific area of interest. </p>
<p>Lastly, you mentioned that you are the "winner" of the Canada's nationwide science fair... "Winner" as in first place? Second place? or just participant? Do make things concise and explicit esp. on your applications. </p>
<p>Where do you live in Canada? I'm also a junior, and I am in vancouver bc.</p>
<p>PS- START practicing for your SAT Reasoning test, and the 3 SAT Subject tests.... Seriously, you DON'T have much time now left if you are just "beginning to realize that you need sats to go to college." Don't leave it until last minute!:)</p>