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<p>Yes, he is saying that. He said he flat out discriminates. See post #38.</p>
<p>You sound offended bovertine. I really meant no offense to anyone. </p>
<p>How do you go through a stack of 100 resumes for 1 job? Maybe you have a better approach. </p>
<p>I agree with a lot of your last post. A lousy 4 year school is no better than a CC, and as discussed by mythmom, may actually be worse. </p>
<p>1) I didn’t change my position, I clarified what I actually do. I had to think about scenarios that I’ve never actually faced in response to umcp11’s excellent questions. It gave me a chance to think it through some more. It didn’t change what I actually do. </p>
<p>2) It’s not the CC blemish per se. I think it is the slower pace that potentially leaves you behind your peers in the good 4-yr school you eventually transfer to. </p>
<p>We typically take 4 years of college to get educated to get to the next level, be it work or graduate school. If you can handle it, working harder, learning at a faster pace and going deeper with like minded peers during those 4 years is better than the alternative. This is especially true when the job requires you to work hard, learn at a fast pace and be able to go deep into stuff that’s hard. </p>
<p>I think that there is a broad spectrum between CC and UChicago. That “Colleges That Change Lives” book I referred to describes schools that are not necessarily difficult to get into, but appear to do a good job challenging their students to their capacity in an attempt to maximize their potential. I have pointed to the % of students that eventually get a PhD as one metric of intellectual rigor. I’m sure there are others that I am less familiar with.</p>
<p>CRD, I appreciate your stating the way you look at potential hires; although, I don’t agree with it.</p>
<p>I like Bovertine’s way better. </p>
<p>But I like the information about employers and how they hire, whatever the the information is.</p>
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<p>I don’t know if I’m offended. Maybe, but not personally. Like I said, I only attended a CC as a high school senior because they ran out of courses at my school. I really don’t have any dog in this fight.</p>
<p>Your now fully explained method sounds completely reasonable to me. Originally I assumed you basically had your computer do a key word check for “Community College” and automatically discard those resumes (a little hyperbole, but that’s sort of what it sounded like). I now understand you do a more thorough vetting.</p>
<p>Please believe me when I say that I am certain that this DOES NOT apply to you. But you have to have noticed that there are some people here on College Confidential that basically regard Community College as the last refuge for morons. I think this attitude is offensive, and I think I may have unfairly taken that out on you.</p>
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<p>Going to CC while you were in HS got you going at a FASTER pace than your high school peers. The jump start probably gave you a leg up when you got to college. By the time you were finished I’m guessing that you probably stood out from your college peers too because in the same amount of time, you could accomplish more. </p>
<p>Anyway, I see where you’re coming from. I don’t think we are too far apart.</p>
<p>Okay I got into my Community College’s Scholars program (they apparently only admit 25 people) meaning I’d only have to pay for my books. I also got into UMCP. I’m pretty stumped =/</p>
<p>Congrats on the UMCP admittance! College admissions are surprising sometimes - why accepted to UMCP and rejected at UMBC? </p>
<p>UMCP is a great school, with a great campus. I hope the money works out so you can go there.</p>
<p>My D went to a CC and then transferred to her dream U (a competitve private U). So far, it has worked well for her (saved us all a lot of $), and is much better than any other options she had available at the time. There are increasing #s of students who choose this path, for financial & other reasons. Some kids in fact choose to take one or more courses at local flagship & the rest at CC, because of the convenience, lower prices and smaller clas ssizes. As the post above indicates, SOME folks MAY discriminate based on your attending CC, but as you have read from many others, most don’t. Cast a wide net and see what your options are. Good luck!</p>
<p>I got into the business program at UMCP and some say it’s harder to transfer into it. I’m not sure how much a risk applying to it as a Transfer is 
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<p>The place to inquire is at UMCP–they should be able to help you with this info. Have you applied for FAid? It might make your this option more affordable. Have only heard great things about UMCP, congrats! You can also querry them about the option of possibly taking some courses at CC & some at UMCP, which is allowed in our state of HI but of course states differ. This might also be a savings and compromise.</p>
<p>I don’t qualify for Fin. Aid. I’m counted as an International (don’t have a Green Card), which means I’ll also have to pay OOS tuition at UMD.</p>
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<p>Did you get into one of the Honors Programs at Montgomery College? Those are excellent. They have really good track records for getting students into good colleges and universities after four years. Considering that you have a full-ride, it is an excellent deal. Since you seem to be concerned about whether you can transfer into a specific program at UMCP, you should pick up the phone and call the people at the honors program and ask them what you need to do exactly to be able to transfer there.</p>
<p>All of the community colleges in Maryland, all of the public universities, and many of the private colleges and universities publish their course equivalencies at [ARTSYS</a> Main Menu](<a href=“http://artweb.usmd.edu/]ARTSYS”>http://artweb.usmd.edu/) You can find what any given course at these institutions will transfer as at any of the other ones.</p>
<p>Congratulations on your acceptances!</p>
<p>happymomof1, I got into both Scholars and Macklin. Not to sound like a prestige-whore but looking at where class of 2009 went were UMCP, NYU, Georgetown and UNC were the only “impressive” schools.</p>
<p>Thanks, I’ll definitely give them a call!</p>
<p>As you surely know, financial aid is very, very, very hard for international students to come by. Two free years as an MC Scholar or in the Macklin program are two free years that can lead to a degree at UMCP or any number of other places. Perhaps you will get a transfer scholarship, perhaps you won’t, but at least you will have half of your degree paid for. Unless the other colleges/universities where you have been accepted pony up enough financial aid to cut your total cost at their institutions no more than half the overall COA for those four years, your best bet is going to be MC.</p>
<p>Unless of course you have an even cheaper option in your home country.</p>
<p>FWIW, Happykid will graduate from WJHS in June, and will spend her first two years at MC. So will a whole bunch of her friends. More students from WJHS go to to MC every single year than to UMCP - in large part because it is the best financial choice for them. Fortunately, Montgomery County being what it is, MC is a truly superior community college. You, like Happykid and her WJHS classmates, won’t lose anything by choosing this option.</p>
<p>Ya I know that Fin Aid is near-impossible for International students. I’m only concerned about one thing right now - Getting into UMCP-Smith (Business) as a Transfer. I hear it’s much harder to get in as a Transfer and I don’t know if I want to risk the possibility of not getting in.</p>
<p>Home country is out of the question. Zero academic freedom and the government chooses your major for you based on a national “aptitude” test.</p>
<p>Ask the people at Macklin. They will know exactly how many of their students have been able to transfer into Smith, and exactly what kind of barriers UMCP has placed in front of those students. </p>
<p>Good Luck!</p>
<p>Thanks happymom. I left both the people at Scholars and Macklin a message.</p>
<p>Do you know which program is better? Scholars seems geared towards those interested in Liberal Arts and Macklin seems to slant heavily towards Business.</p>