any schools with these qualities???

<p>-good business program
-in or near a city (or somewhere that has something mildly entertaining to do)
-students that are not obssessed with athletics
-students that are not OBSSESSED with drinking
-housing that does not require me to share a room with someone</p>

<p>I am currently a freshman at Lehigh and I am starting to become depressed here. I am trying to find a school with the attribute I have listed above. Thanks fo rany suggestions.</p>

<p>Wharton (at UPenn) comes immediately to mind.</p>

<p>Since you're a freshman, be assured that the drinking will die down somewhat as people discover how much they dislike a hangover, and you will find a living situation that works. It may take a while, though. In the meantime, think of it as an opportunity to learn about how people react to difficult situations and to develop your own sense of self.</p>

<p>Is there a substance-free dorm at Lehigh? Or an honors dorm? Perhaps you could move.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, most college campuses are enamored by alcohol, even Penn - don't fool yourself into thinking that Penn doesn't have a drinkin'g problem simply because it is highly selective in nature.<br>
You might want to look at some Liberal Arts Colleges, however most of these do not offer business as a major. </p>

<p>You can learn a lot about people and yourself by rooming with someone as well. This is a natural part of life and the adjustment that it takes to live with someone is going to serve you well in the future. </p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>I believe UPenn has housing problems and obviously there's the drinking that happens at almost every college. Stern perhaps?</p>

<p>gibson - I am feeling very sympathetic to what you are going through. It may well be that you should be thinking about transferring to a school where you feel the atmosphere will suit you better. And yet, as others have pointed out, the concerns you have may well crop at many of the good schools you may want to consider. So, I think this may be an opportunity for you to focus your "search" a little differently. Rather than looking for schools which might eliminate the problems you're confronting, search for ways you can eliminate them right where you are: what clubs/activities/organizations can you join which will surround with more kindred spirits to you? </p>

<p>That said, Bentley? Babson? Georgetown?</p>

<p>Boston University, Northeastern, American</p>

<p>At Carnegie Mellon, they have at least one substance free dorm. They have a good business school. Housing is set up so that you pay for what you get. A single costs most, obviously, but newest dorm is more expensive than older dorms. I think the difference was only about $500 between levels.
CMU is close enough to visit; good luck</p>

<p>When I mentioned the 3 schools I was not considering single rooms. At most places freshman year that is tough to get.</p>

<p>Well I will most likely be staying here at Lehigh for my freshman year, and then I hope to transfer for fall of next year, since most schools don't accept freshman transfers for the spring semester. This weekend was very depressing and made the thought of transferring even MORE exciting. Friday night I walked around with some friends looking for parties at the frats since that was the ONLY thing going on. We were eventually able to get into one but it was extremely hot and crowded so we left soon after. We then decided to look for a party off campus and ended up just wandering the slum of south Bethlehem where there was absolutely nothing. So then we just went home. Then Saturday night most of my friends just stayed in to get work done, so that is what I did as well. Yeah it has been a pretty depressing weekend. I just need to find other schools to look at to transfer to next fall. Thanks</p>

<p>Case Western has a strong business school and due to extremely large freshman class this year, some single rooms for freshman. All upperclassmen have the option of single rooms in a suite or apartment setup.</p>

<p>Regarding drinking situation, my S feels there is more partying at Case than he expected, but it is not on the same level as "famous party campuses" such as KU or Wisconsin. At Case you can entirely avoid the party scene, which the majority of students do. Every college will have the party scene, you just have to decide how you will deal with it. My S totally avoids the party scene and the party people. It can be done.</p>

<p>It's too early to get depressed, gibson. Get out there and find your people. They are out there....</p>

<p>Yeah I'd recommend Bentley, Case Western and Carnegie Mellon. All are directly in or right on the edge of major cities. They all offer great business programs.</p>

<p>gibson I understand exactly what it is you are dealing with. I'm at Penn State and completely hate it. I'm not into the frat scene and that is the only thing going on. Especially on gamedays everyone on campus is drunk and the social life revolves around the athletic events. </p>

<p>I was supposed to go to Bentley but decided that it would be better if I went to Penn State because I switched my major. Unfortunately, I've quickly realized that tailgating, going to frat parties and watching everyon getting drunk while watching football on the weekends is not my thing.</p>

<p>Also this place is like a city with so many kids that it makes it difficult to find a new group of friends to hang out with. I'm looking forward to transferring to possibly Bentley or somewhere out west next year.</p>

<p>Earlham College in Indiana has a strict no alcohol policy. There are, of course, some students that skirt that rule but it honestly is a school where drinking is not the focus of attention. They are one of the few liberal arts colleges with a business major, and their business graduates appear to do quite well. The business program is unique in that it stresses ethical aspects of business management throughout the curriculum. Earlham is located in a small city (Richmond, Indiana) but is within driving distance to Dayton, Indianapolis and Cinncinatti. The students we have talked to at Earlham all have told us that there is plenty going on on campus and that it is an amazingly supportive campus community. There are no frats or sororities. Politically, students are quite liberal.
In any case, just thought I'd mention it, because there ARE schools out there where drinking is not the entire focus of student life. Keep looking and you will find others as well.</p>

<p>gibson,
You'll have a much better chance of finding your place at Lehigh if you just look a little harder for things to do. I know another freshman at Lehigh that has been kept busy with musical things. If you go around looking for parties I don't think it's unusual to find alcohol. </p>

<p>There was a jazz event at the Zoellner Center that played on Friday night and another jazz event at Baker Hall Saturday night. What did you do on weekends in High School? Go to the football game, hang out with friends? Go to the movies? All that stuff is still available. Hang in there, you are not the only one that is a non-drinker, I am sure your people are at Lehigh, you just have to find them.</p>

<p>Bentley is not really "on the edge of Boston". Waltham's a nice area in itself, and it does have public transportation access into Boston and Cambridge, but taking the Bus/Commuter Rail into the city and then having to get on the T to get where you need to be will get cumbersome if you plan on going into the city regularly. You also won't be able to get in/out of the city late at night. Driving is an option, but geting in and out of the city during October, when there's events on the Esplanade, when there's a Red Sox game and between 11 and 3 am is a disaster.</p>

<p>In terms of the first two requirements, you have BC, BU, NU and MIT in Boston. Athletics and drinking vary amongst those schools, but I don't think any of them revolve around either and you shouldn't have a problem enjoying yourself if you're not interested them.</p>

<p>As for the housing requirement, I don't personally know of any (though I'm sure there are) schools that guarantee singles. I'd recommend budging a little on this.</p>

<p>Actually I believe Bentley offers a free shuttle into Harvard Square every hour and then downtown Boston is very easy to get to via the T. If you don't feel like taking the T you can always drive which doesn't take long. (It's only 10 miles outside of Boston). All the schools that ryanbis mentioned are good options. BU and NU are so big in that there is no one defined type of student. BC is more on the jock and athletic team following side. MIT is more of the studious type.</p>

<p>You might also check out Fordham.</p>

<p>I would prefer to try to stay near the level of national prestige that Lehigh has. Unless the business program is very well respected. Also, I talked to the admissions people at Carnegie Mellon and they said that they do not accept transfers into the business school. Keep the comments coming guys, they are keeping my hopes up of finding another school. I was actually thinking about UVA, but I have heard the social scene there is very preppy. Can anyone comment or give other suggestions of schools??? thanks guys</p>

<p>any other ideas?</p>

<p>??? anyone???</p>