any schools with these qualities???

<p>gibson, i live/work near lehigh.. i'm sure there are things off campus that you can do if you look hard enough. can you guys have cars there?</p>

<p>I would suggest Northwestern. Evanston is a great town, which has grown dramatically during the 10 years that I have lived near it. </p>

<p>It is an easy train or cta ride to Chicago.</p>

<p>There is a lot to do---not all centered around parties/fraternity parties.</p>

<p>My daughter is at UVA and loves it. Most of the things that she does on the weekend are within walking distance of her dorm, because 1st years cannot have cars.</p>

<p>She seems to have plenty to do on the weekends.</p>

<p>Boston College is a viable option.</p>

<p>gibson99, I'm so sorry you're depressed, but as a Lehigh grad (long ago but some things apparently don't change) I know exactly what you mean. Like a lot of schools you love it or hate it. Someone mentioned waiting till the frat partying dies down...it won't, and I agree there's not much off campus unless you call going to the mall in Allentown exciting.</p>

<p>At this point I'd suggest NYU if you think you can handle a complete turnaround. Tepper might not take transfers but if you're interested in econ, that's not in Tepper at CMU (it's in their lib arts school H&SS). I think BC is Lehigh-like but it does have the city nearby, and I'd say the same for UVA (no city)... neither sounds like a match for you. Sounds like you'd enjoy a city school.</p>

<p>Now the other side...you've only been there a month. It's a beautiful campus. It's got a good rep esp in the East. It may take just experiencing a good weekend or 2 (it'll happen) for your entire outlook to change, a lot depends on your attitude. I looked to transfer as a freshman but couldn't because of fin aid. Ended up really liking the place. Joined a frat (when in Rome...) but not a wild one. Followed Lehigh with 4 grad years at Penn and was surprised that there were a lot of things I liked better about Lehigh than Penn. The grass is always greener...</p>

<p>Why business? Why not Econ at a school like U. Chicago?</p>

<p>I there a big difference between business and economics? I plan to possibly go into something like commercial real estate.</p>

<p>Boston College has its fair share of drinking - not much improvement on that account.</p>

<p>If you're into music and things like that, there's a place called tk's that has live bands, or crocodile rock (<a href="http://www.crocodilerockcafe.com/)%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.crocodilerockcafe.com/)&lt;/a>. i'm not sure how those places are with people under 21 .. but i know they have live bands playing there.. there's also dorney park that you could check out on a weekend.. that's open a few more weeks yet, and there's also a bus station on hamilton blvd (at the charcoal drive in) that can take you to new york city for about 30 dollars round trip. you could also check out some bowling alleys or other things like that. like someone else mentioned, you could also try the lehigh valley mall.. although that gets quite boring after awhile. allentown just isn't a big "college" area.</p>

<p>i'd also see if there is anything on campus to do. i know my college (although it wasn't in allentown) had bands playing, or movies showing on campus, comedians or bingo nights.. things like that.. most of these things were during the weeks, but occasionally there would be a thing on a weekend. there also was sports events on weekends as well. (<a href="http://www.ycp.edu/download/monthly_activities_calendar.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ycp.edu/download/monthly_activities_calendar.pdf&lt;/a&gt;) we also had a movie channel that played a different movie each day that we could watch from our rooms.. so i'd look for some sort of student activities.. i also don't know if lehigh has habitat for humanity, but i know at my school we worked on houses saturdays so that was something to do on the weekend as well. (i'm sure allentown has a habitat chapter, just not sure if lehigh participates)</p>

<p>3221dk, I really appreciate your empathy and underatanding. I really was considering NYU until I heard about their core curriculum. Business majors have to take math all the way up to calc 3!!! I am struggling here with calc 1. This school is a LOT harder than I expected. My gpa is pretty poor right now. How much will that affect my ability to transfer to another school???</p>

<p>
[quote]
-good business program
-in or near a city (or somewhere that has something mildly entertaining to do)
-students that are not obssessed with athletics
-students that are not OBSSESSED with drinking
-housing that does not require me to share a room with someone

[/quote]
Some suggestions:</p>

<p>Case Western (yes on all points)
McGill (but there is drinking; after first year almost everyone lives off campus)
Purdue (but not in a city and athletics is big)</p>

<p>Also, check out this for student comments on schools (taken w/ a grain of salt):</p>

<p><a href="http://www.studentsreview.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.studentsreview.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Well these are the reasons they do not work fo rme.</p>

<p>case western- i have read horrible things on studentsreview about them</p>

<p>mcgill- i would rather stay in the united states</p>

<p>purdue- no city and big on athletics like u said</p>

<p>Emory has everything that you are looking for in a school. The Goizueta Business school is solid and well respected, it is very accessible to all that Atlanta has to offer, no football team and has available singles.</p>

<p>Washington U St Louis, if you are qualified academically?
In a city.Good public transportation.Frat scene is manageable,doesn't dominate.Alcohol will be everywhere but your ability to find something else to do off campus will increase.
Don't know about the single room availability but off campus housing is plentiful and fairly cheap.I think the business school has a decent reputation.</p>

<p>Gibson... with all due respect.</p>

<p>I think you need to find your Freshman counselor (not an undergrad... the dean or person who is responsible for your health and wellbeing and academic success) and sit down and talk about how you're feeling.</p>

<p>I'm detecting several things going on at once, and while I agree that focusing on getting the heck out of there might feel good psychologically, it's probably not a good way for you to be spending your time right now.</p>

<p>If you're struggling with calc, for example, you need to get a grip on that. Lots of courses in a business major require a real comfort level with numbers (accounting) and a high degree of analytical skill (valuation, corporate finance, microeconomics). If you overestimated your math prep in high school and are struggling in the wrong courses, it's no wonder you are unhappy.... but your struggles in math will follow you to the next school if you stick with a business major.</p>

<p>If you are unhappy with the frat scene, you need to find where the other students are hanging. If you don't like the drinking, you've got to replace the hours you spend alone and feeling miserable doing something productive (surely there are Lehigh students who spend their weekends camping or rock-climbing or being clowns in a pediatric hospital or writing poetry or whatever). Changing your venue isn't going to solve your problem... no matter where you go, you're going to have to seek out like-minded people, get plugged in to activities and causes that you care about, and make a life for yourself doing things you enjoy.</p>

<p>So-- stop obsessing about where you can transfer to. Go get yourself some help from a grown-up who has seen hundreds of kids in your position. And yes... your GPA will effect where you can get in as a transfer student, so go get a math tutor while you're meeting with a dean.... you will feel so much better about Lehigh once you're focused on doing well, on making friends, whether you plan to stay or go.</p>

<p>ok guys,</p>

<p>You have all been pretty helpful so far and I am very appreciative of your comments. The problem I am having is that everytime I find a school that I might be interested in, I read horrible things about it on studentsreview.com. So I will give this thread one last bump to see if you guys have anymore suggestions or advice.</p>

<p>That webiste really is not a particularly great source to learn about a school.</p>

<p>gibson99, the problem is you are letting someone else tell you whether the school is good for you (via studentsreview). And in reality, only you can determine that by visiting the place and meeting the teachers and students, checking out the campus and area. What some people think is bad thing, you might think is a positive thing for you.</p>

<p>I think studentsreview serves a useful purpose, but you should only interpret themes from there. We can list dozens of reasons why the information might be bad - it's out of date (eg, CWRU is not the same as it was 10 yrs ago), the sample size is too small, it's mostly students looking to transfer out, you cannot really evaluate your college experience until your third year or even after graduation, etc.</p>

<p>So, use more sources of information, and don't let one source override everything else you read. Maybe don't even read studentsreview until after you visit for yourself. Also, the school lists here on CC and on livejournal.com have active students on them. Ask them about the environment.</p>

<p>It's actually not to hard to get a single room at Penn - your best option is to try and get a room as part of a suite - you'll have 'roomies' and a shared bathroom, but you have your own space and you can shut (and possibly lock) your door to get away from it all. The only problem as a transfer student is that you might end up stuck with incoming freshmen, who are more likely to be experimenting with alcohol.</p>

<p>Penn does have an awful lot of drinking going on (or so it seems at times), and it can get a bit frustrating when there are drunk people all over the place, but I've always managed to find alternative things to do, on or off campus. (I'm a senior now, and I don't think I've ever had a drink at Penn!)</p>

<p>I probably wrote horrible things about Penn at studentreview, but I don't regret coming here, and, as Whartonites will tell you, Wharton is Wharton.</p>

<p>What about Indiana Bloomington Business School. It is so big with so much to do you could find people who are not into drinking and sports. I know my son's friends there who are into music are not into sports and drinking. They have so many different types of living arrangements as well. I have heard only good things about the business school.</p>

<p>cany anyone tell me about NYU? i have heard that they have some pretty intense required core courses. also, how hard is it to transfer into stern as a sophomore???</p>