<p>so, I am kind of stuck between HAAS and engineering.
I rele don't have clear dream and I think either of them are fine with me.
I heard engineering is rele hard for international (OOS) to get in.
Is it same for undeclared Business?
Is Undeclared Business less competitie than engineering in general?
Any suggestions would be appreciated!</p>
<p>First of all, you can only apply to Haas as a sophomore, and then actually be under the major as a junior, if you get in. In your freshman and sophomore year, you work on the prerequisites and breadths required for the Haas application. It's less than a 50% chance that you'll actually get in. As for engineering, it would be wise to get this major as a freshman rather than transfer. Transferring from, say, the College of Letters & Sciences into the College of Engineering is quite difficult. So, what you need to decide is whether to gamble with waiting to see if you can get into Haas or directly applying as a engineering major.</p>
<p>As an international student, according to the website, it is really hard to get into engineering because the space is given to California resident first. So, I thought I would have a better chance of getting into HAAS after getting into UC Berkeley since I am on equal ground with other california residents.</p>
<p>Stop capping Haas. it is not HAAS it is Haas.</p>
<p>You said that you don't know what you are interested in, be more open minded than just business or engineering. Find something you really like and get your head out of your wallet.</p>
<p>if hypothetically you get rejected from Haas and would still like to continue w/ a business major should you transfer to another school w/ an undergrad business program like UMich or NYU or would it be better to just to pursue a new major at Berkeley?</p>
<p>You have to ask yourself: If your grades/resume/extra-curriculars were not good enough for Haas, how likely is it that you'll be accepted as a transfer student at a school with perhaps a near equivalent prestigious level of Berkeley? Would you rather graduate with a Berkeley degree or graduate with a business major elsewhere? I'd say it would be a personal decision considering the social life and Berkeley atmosphere that would be left behind.</p>
<p>just to add, you don't really need 4 years of undergrad business. you are much more marketable if you do engineering and then spend 2 years to get an mba (which isn't necessary either). many engineering majors end up going into consulting/business in general.</p>
<p>yea, I am also considering majoring in engineering first, then get an MBA.
This seems to be a quite fancy trend today.
However, if I just want to get into UC Berkeley, as an international (OOS) students, would I have a better shot at pre-business or engineering.
If engineering, which department would be better? I heard EECS is RELE competitive.</p>
<p>Getting into L&S would be easier than getting into CoE.</p>
<p>All admitted Cal students can get into Haas with equal difficulty regardless their place of origin.</p>
<p>Wait, is that true?
so even thought you are majoringin engineering, you can still apply to Hass, just like L&S student?</p>
<p>You mean Haas not Hass.</p>
<p>Engineers can apply for Haas but it is harder to hold down the engineering curriculum and your Haas pre-reqs.</p>
<p>In state, OoS, and internationals all get the same treatment for getting into Haas assuming they were admitted to Berkeley as frosh.</p>
<p>Also, remember what you said
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I rele don't have clear dream
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<p>Get your head out of your wallet, and think more broadly.</p>
<p>^^ lol stop being a jerk to him</p>