<p>or know someone who has? How much of it is having assumed incorrectly that the schools are indeed a match for the applicant's qualifications? How much of it is the schools becoming more selective and conservative in the ED or EA process (holding back acceptance to see the RD pool and also give them a fair chance)? And how much of it is the school "smelling out" a low level of interest in the school by the applicant or perceiving that the school is purely being used as a safety? In retrospect, would have applied to a couple more "matches". Deferred at all but one match so far.</p>
<p>A match school isn’t a safety, so getting deferred should not be a totally unexpected result. You should get into some, but not necessarily all of your matches especially if they have lowish acceptance rates or you need financial aid. Many colleges use their EA/ED round to make sure they have enough full pay students.</p>
<p>The good news with a deferral is that it means you are in range - they could have rejected you and didn’t.</p>
<p>As I’m sure you have heard my S has been deferred at 2 safeties and 2 match schools, 1 more safety he should hear back from in a few weeks. I have come to the conclusion that it is a combination of a rising transcript and them wanting to see his first semester grades, which I can undersatnd fot the matches, and the biggest reason in IMHO, and many others on this forum… FA.</p>
<p>How are you defining match and safety? My D is a junior, so we are not quite there yet, but I am looking at her test scores and class rank. Where they match the 25-75% range the colleges post, I am assuming she is a match, where she is above I would call that a safety. Is this right?</p>
<p>^Only if the acceptance rates aren’t too low. At any school that accepts less than 25% or so of its applicants I think you have to be more conservative - and certainly any school that accepts less than 15% of all applicants has to be considered a reach even for stellar candidates.</p>
<p>pleaseadvise…If you could tell us a little more about your stats, schools, possible major, etc., we may be able to give you some advice. It sounds like it’s time to send out a new batch of applications.</p>
<p>* and the biggest reason in IMHO, and many others on this forum… FA. *</p>
<p>Did your son get deferred from schools that are “need aware”? I didn’t think any safeties were need-aware. Are there some?</p>
<p>I think some schools are concerned about yield. They dont like being used as back ups when they’ve figured that student has sights set elsewhere.</p>
<p>*How are you defining match and safety? My D is a junior, so we are not quite there yet, but I am looking at her test scores and class rank. </p>
<p>Where they match the 25-75% range the colleges post, I am assuming she is a match, </p>
<p>*</p>
<p>If a student is towards the 25% end, than it’s not a match. A match would mean student’s stats are more in the middle to high of the mid 50 range and the school has a highish acceptance rate.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>where she is above I would call that a safety. Is this right? *</p>
<p>Not necessarily. Schools that have a low acceptance rate are not safeties even if your stats are well within the upper quartile.</p>
<p>and GPA and rank can matter as well.</p>
<p>They dont like being used as back ups when they’ve figured that student has sights set elsewhere.</p>
<p>This might put students ( with need) in a catch-22. They need to be able to compare packages so they apply to a largish number of schools ( more than 10), but then the schools can’t tell where they are really interested, so the number of offers they have to compare, may be as small as if they had applied to half that many.</p>
<p>toledo, SAT is 2030 (single sitting), GPA 3.6 UW, 4.2W, 7APs and the rest Honors. Multiple Varsity letters track and CC, strong ECs w/depth. Liberal Arts or Arts and Science emphasis. Schools: UMich, BC, Villanova, NYU, Wesleyan, SUNY Geneseo.</p>
<p>rank is Top 10%, school does not break it out any more specifically than deciles.</p>
<p>Also watch trends in applications & acceptances. The trend towards applying to in-state public schools (lower cost) is wel-established. In our area, there appears to be a bulge in college applicants that has yet to crest. Finally, overcrowding - D’s school wound up with more acceptances last year than they expected. I will not be surprised if they attempt to keep this year’s class size smaller unless they think the housing situation will improve before school year begins.</p>
<p>please advise,
dd you apply for FA?</p>
<p>menloparkmom, no FA applied for. Full paying applicant.</p>
<p>UofM defers many of the early out of state applicants and if you are out of state and with unweighted GPA of 3.6 that deferral should not have been a total surprise. UofM doesn’t meet need for out of state so that would not have been a consideration.</p>
<p>momofthreeboys, not a total surprise as UM is a terrific school. But being full pay OOS w/a sibling attending, in our school’s Naviance range, and not applying to either business (Ross) or engineering–figured it was at least a decent chance.</p>
<p>*SAT is 2030 (single sitting), GPA 3.6 UW, 4.2W, 7APs and the rest Honors. Multiple Varsity letters track and CC, strong ECs w/depth. Liberal Arts or Arts and Science emphasis. Schools: UMich, BC, Villanova, NYU, Wesleyan, SUNY Geneseo. *</p>
<p>* no FA applied for. Full paying applicant. *</p>
<p>I don’t think any of those schools are need-aware…are they?</p>
<p>What is the M+CR score? </p>
<p>Don’t know if UMich and the SUNY weight ECs that much.</p>
<p>Does your child have any safeties that she likes and has been accepted to??? If not, she needs to quickly apply to one.</p>
<p>When DS was applying to college 5 years ago, I came to the conclusion[ after doing much research on CC for the prior 2 years] that NO SCHOOL should be considered a MATCH, regardless of the students stats, if the overall acceptance rates are below 20%.
I have not looked at the specific acceptance rates for the colleges your S applied to but if his stats weren’t in the top 75% of accepted students[ according to Common Data Set stats] then a deferral should not surprise you.</p>
<p>I totally don’t understand how you can tell if a school is need-aware-- all of D’s schools except UMich, I think, asked on the CommonApp whether she was looking for FA. NYU gives very little aid so they must have some awareness of need or they’d be admitting tons of students who can’t afford to go. (They probably are doing so, but…) </p>
<p>I’d have guessed that SUNY Geneseo and Villanova would be yesses…but wait…NYU, Wesleyan, BC…do they all have EA? I thought they only had ED.</p>
<p>My sense is that he’s in the midrange ballpark for these schools, but schools will want to see who else applies. </p>
<p>Our experience that at/above 75th%tile SAT scores is not enough to get in everywhere. They both did very well in admissions, but both had rejections and at least one waitlist.</p>