<p>I'm debating whether to study and pay for the AP Chem test this May. Will a 4/5 get me out of the BSE's Chem requirement and allow me to take any science in its place (or can AP credit not be used to get out of Princeton chem)? What about AB students? What can a 4/5 do for them?</p>
<p>Yeah, I'm in AP chem now too, and I won't be taking the exam because it's not going to count for anything for me. But since you're looking at doing chemistry, I'll stay out of this anyone. I know that it can be substituted for one of the intro courses, if that helps.</p>
<p>I'm not going to major in chem. I want to major in financial engineering or economics. I'm not that good at chem so what I want to know is that if I major in financial engineering (BSE) or econ (AB), will the 4/5 on the AP CHEM test free me of college chem?</p>
<p>well, if you major in econ (I'm not familiar with BSE or its requirements, so I won't mention that), you don't technically have to take chem (you can take whatever will fulfill the science lab requirement, but I'm sure you already knew that, heh). From what I understand, AP exams can't fulfill distribution requirements, but can only get you out of certain intro-level courses. So yes, you'd still have to fulfill the DR with two science or laboratory courses. If I'm wrong, someone please jump on me, maul me, and tell this poor soul the truth!</p>
<p>philntex is slightly wrong, but I don't even think all the professors understand how the system works. Advanced placement is somewhat perplexing at Princeton...I'm an AB and I'll try to explain what my AP scores allow me to do.</p>
<p>Because I had many APs, most of which were 5s, I can take advanced standing, meaning I would be a sophomore next semester and a junior next year and graduate with the class of 07. Many people get this standing, but not many take advantage of it, because who would only want to spend 3 years at Princeton? </p>
<p>Also, because I had a 5 in AP Chem and Bio, I must take more advanced (not intro) CHM/MOL/EEB courses, if I choose to take courses in those departments. If I take an intro course in one of those departments, I forfeit those advanced placement 'credits.' However, I have no interest in CHM/MOL/EEB courses. I can thus use my two science 5s to place out of one of the science and technology with lab (STL) requirements. I can now take one ST without lab (STX) and one with lab. This is good because labs take up a lot of time, and my main interests lie in the social sciences. When I take my STL, it will be something ENV or GEO or PSY and not something for which I have AP credit.</p>
<p>see <a href="http://www.princeton.edu/pr/admissions/u/ap/info.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/pr/admissions/u/ap/info.htm</a> and <a href="http://www.princeton.edu/pr/admissions/u/ap/table.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/pr/admissions/u/ap/table.htm</a> . But those sites may only make you more confused. :)</p>
<p>So basically, even without any AP credit, you are not required to take specific science courses (like physics, chem, bio etc...) but you are required to take any two science classes with labs that you want? and the AP credits let you take one of those science classes without the lab? am i understanding correct? That's for AB I think?</p>
<p>But BSE students must take X amount of physics and X amount of chem etc...? Will AP scores, say in chemistry, allow me to just place into a more advanced class of chem to fufill my X # of requirements for chem? OR does it let me take another science instead of chem to fufill my chem requirement? </p>
<p>I know these questions are confusing, and I really appreciate your help.</p>
<p>yeah, that's what i meant tiger08 ;) Thanks for clearing that up. See, this is what happens when you open your mouth without getting the facts straight. But at least I know now...</p>
<p>And to go along with dvd's questions, can anyone who has fulfilled the DRs for science and quantitative analysis in non-traditional fields like psychology and Woodrow Wilson explain what those classes are in terms of coursework (i.e. the Quantitative Methods in the psych department and Quantitative Analysis and Public Policy in WW)? I'm trying to avoid the hardcore math classes of the math department and the hardcore sciences in the science departments, hehe.</p>
<p>A 4 or 5 on AP chemistry will fulfill the BSE chem requirement. You will not need to take any more chemistry as a BSE if you take AP chemistry. If you are an econ AB, you of course do not need to take any chem.</p>
<p>The Quantitative methods classes are supposed to be boring and not that easy. The student cousre guide and word of mouth are both good methods of finding easy QR and ST classes.</p>
<p>I am a BSE in ORFE...i got a 5 on chem and 5's on both parts of physics C and B</p>
<p>what that means is as a BSE i am not required to take A SINGLE DAY of chem or physics to be an engineer at princeton--so if you want to do ORFE but arent really interested in hard core engineering science courses you should take and try really hard to get a 5 on AP chem and physics C</p>
<p>i still have to take a lab science, and i chose to take physics anyway because i like it, but i HEARTILY recommend taking any and every AP you can because you never know what will happen when you get to princeton</p>
<p>also, even for APs such as statistics where officially no credit is given, i think, it can be useful when petitioning a professor to let you in to a course you dont have the pre-reqs for to point to an AP score....</p>
<p>Thanks so much! That exactly answers my question. If you don't mind, I have two more... Sorry.... You said you got a five on the Chem and Physics AP tests. Will a 4 do the same thing? </p>
<p>Last questions - What about history AP exams? Is it worth taking? I have a credit from AP Euro last year, but I really don't want to try to study for AP US this year if I'm going to hit chem and physics hard and if AP US won't give me much.</p>
<p>dvd56x you fruitcake... you are 1 in our class and aren't bad at chem stop lying to the princeton people. You are just afriad our teacher doesn't do enough (which in all actuality is true but come on how hard can chem be...)</p>
<p>i do not know that person...</p>
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