I am going to take the AP Exams for Micro and Macro, and Emory accepts a 4 or 5 on these exams. However, would it be better to not take these exams and retake the intro econ classes when I attend Emory? I am afraid that I will not be prepared for Intermediate Micro/Macro and struggle without taking intro classes at the college level, because college economics is more in depth than high school. On the other hand, I would like to not spend unnecessary time in intro micro/macro if I already have a good grasp of the material and hopefully get a good score on the AP exams in May, and use this AP credit to get out of intro Micro and Macro in order to take other classes that interest me.
Any insight from people who have used AP credits for Econ, and haven’t? Thanks so much!
@roundandround : Use credit for intro. Take intermediate once you have college or AP credit for calculus 1. I don’t think econ. 101 and 112 are that helpful. They are large lectures that are not but so rigorous (just because something is a college course DOES NOT mean it goes more in depth than an AP/IB equivalent. It is largely professor and class size dependent. At many school I’ve seen, someone with AP credits in economics should not bother taking them in college).
On a similar note, I am debating whether or not to take AP Stats, Psych, and English Literature, as the 12 credit hour limit Emory imposes on AP credit renders these useless for me in terms of getting credit towards graduation. Is there, however, any benefit to taking these exams to place out of classes, fulfill GER’s, or otherwise?
@MiCh408 That isn’t true. 12 hours is damned near a semester of credits. Lit would get you credit for FWR GER (English 181) so you won’t have to take that (even if you did, you could go straight to continued writing requirements in hosted by non-English/Creative Writing departments). AP Stats…Emory doesn’t have an equivalent for that as the university wide stats class is not only math but inference and R focused, so you get 3 credits towards graduation.
Psychology, will get you credit for and placement out of psyche 111 and not 110.
http://psychology.emory.edu/home/undergraduate/major.html
An overall table of what each gets you is here:
http://college.emory.edu/orientation/first-year-students/apib-equivalencies.html
@bernie12 Thanks for your response. I should’ve mentioned that I have already taken several AP tests that I plan to bring in, which already exceed the 12 credit hour limit as is. It seems that English is worth taking, but I’m not so sure about stats and psychology. PSYC 111 isn’t listed under the GER’s and isn’t a requirement for my major (NBB), so do I have anything to gain if I’m not going to get credit for it?
@MiCh408 : It helps to remember that NBB is more of an interdisciplinary PROGRAM and not a department. What makes it a bit better than many of the neuroscience majors at comparable private universities is that they do indeed host their own core courses and several of their own electives (at many places neuro major is basically a concentration within the biology department so the courses offered take on whatever flavor is dominant in courses in the biology department. NBB has its own teaching culture in its courses AND you get to take tons of electives elsewhere).
Many of the upper division psychology classes (tons which are AMAZING) and even science/neuroscience heavy (there is a brain imaging class for example taught by Dr. Berns who is awesome. Either way, Emory’s psychology undergraduate program is not a stereotypical program that is extremely biased towards social psychology, it is more oriented towards psychobiology and neuroscience). Those classes want 111 and 110. It helps not having to take both so you can more easily get to the interesting courses. If you took psychology 110 in the fall for example, you get access to several serious 200 and even some 300 levels courses afterwards (so as early as spring of frosh year) because you already have the 111 credit. Also, the more intense psychology courses are great preparation for some NBB core courses. Edward’s psyche 110 is strikingly similar in content to NBB 302 for example (and likely more rigorous in some areas) and either section would help with NBB 201.
Think longterm…it is hard, but try, especially with a major like NBB 201 which is interdisciplinary yet flexible (can choose electives from tons of depts) and jam-packed (need several intro. courses in other STEM subjects just for NBB 301, plus may need certain courses in departments outside of NBB to gain access to certain electives) at the same time.
*Also: Psyche 111 as an HSC: http://atlas.college.emory.edu/schedules/index.php?select=HSC
@bernie12 That’s some really great information I appreciate the depth and detail of your response. I must’ve been looking at the wrong area when I concluded that PSYC 111 did not fulfill a GER, and I was not aware that both PSYC 110 and 111 are the foundation for the higher level neuro/psych classes. I will definitely be taking the AP Psych test. Though I still don’t think I need to take the AP Stats test.
@MiCh408 : That one (AP stats) has become useless ever since they retired math 107 which was a traditional statistics course. a long time ago AP or not, you will have to take QTM 100, and if a neuroscience major that isn’t doubling in something like math or CS. you will have to take a life sciences version of calculus 2 that includes some mix of stats, linear algebra, differential equations, and hints of multi-variable/vector spaces (not a bad class in terms of content, and taught in a way that students can succeed). Not even Calc. BC gets NBB or bio students out of that unless they intend to take higher level math.