<p>I heard from some people that colleges care more about AP Test scores than subject tests, because the AP tests reflect how the students will do in college? </p>
<p>Are AP tests that important?</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>Almost no one cares about AP tests.</p>
<p>^ troll????</p>
<p>umm, randombetch, are you being sarcastic? Hard to tell when on the screen...</p>
<p>Anyway, after attending sessions with adcoms for a couple of the top schools on the east coast, I have heard almost every single one of them mentioned the importance of having a challenging high school curriculum, and for most hs's, AP is what reflects that challenge. AP test scores, in turn reflect how well you have learned the material and compares you to other students in the nation. I believe that AP test does have its prestige, especially when Siemens has a special scholarship just to reward people who took AP tests in the Science and math area because those are believed to be what makes us even able to compare with the type of curriculum offered in highly academically competitive countries such as China and India.</p>
<p>Ignore randombetch. </p>
<p>Both tests have attained their own respective amounts of importance. AP tests show your commitment to challenging yourself in the coursework you learn in high school. Subject tests show your willingness to apply your reasoning and skills beyond SAT Reasoning and into certain subjects. Both are important.</p>
<p>AP courses are important. You should also take those exams to prove that your course had meaning--for instance, if you get a 5 on an exam, then that A in the class is probably deserved (and that B understandable). if you send the scores, then adcoms can get a slightly clearer picture. </p>
<p>however, be sure to understand this: SAT IIs are actual admission criterion for some colleges. AP exam scores are not. A low AP score probably will not damn you. A low SAT II (especially if that test is required) can. Colleges will look at those SAT IIs and use that to form a picture of who you are. It is not known whether AP exams will be as equivalent in forming a representation of yourself to the committee. Do not hope too much--AP tests are not high on any adcom's list. The exams simply might be a checkmark.</p>
<p>What enderkin said.</p>
<p>AP scores aren't even really that important until after you're accepted and the issue of using AP credit comes up.</p>
<p>the ap course itself is much more important than the ap test.</p>
<p>Not kidding.</p>
<p>Most places don't ask for AP scores. Most places don't care.</p>
<p>Some exceptions include Princeton, Duke, Harvard, etc.</p>
<p>AP course is much, much more important. </p>
<p>"I have heard almost every single one of them mentioned the importance of having a challenging high school curriculum, and for most hs's, AP is what reflects that challenge. AP test scores, in turn reflect how well you have learned the material and compares you to other students in the nation."</p>
<p>AP test scores have nothing to do with high school curriculum. What you did is called an informal logical fallacy (irrelevant conclusion).</p>
<p>Wow, kind of disappointed how so many on CC spread their own fallacious beliefs as facts. Good thing we have people like enerkin to straighten things out.</p>
<p>^first of all, I think you did not understand what I typed. When I said curriculum, I was comparing the AP tests in the math and science area with the curriculum offered in CHINA AND INDIA, which has nothing to do with those in the United States. AP tests, especially Physics C, come closest to the high level courses in Chinese and Indian high schools. </p>
<p>Second, from the college confidential website, </p>
<p>Question: How much influence do AP scores have on college admission?</p>
<p>With so many incredible students submitting applications that are chockablock with great grades, challenging classes, top SAT and ACT scores, and extraordinary extracurricular pursuits, admission officials at elite colleges are increasingly looking to AP exam scores to serve as tie-breakers. When one candidate has taken three AP tests by application time and earned two 5’s and a 4, while a similar candidate received two 4’s and a 3, obviously, the first aspirant will appear stronger....</p>
<p>...if you hail from a school that’s considered competitive and you’re aiming at the most selective colleges, your chances of admission could be affected by AP exam scores or even by the fact that you list AP classes on your transcript but don’t submit the test results. In such cases, adcoms will wonder if you were too chicken (or lazy) to tackle the test or may assume that your scores were even worse than they really were</p>
<p>So yes, it's VERY disappointing to see people on CC spread their own fallacious beliefes as facts.</p>
<p>I'm wondering if it's worth it to argue this late at night. I should be sleeping to grow.</p>
<p>Anyway, you were trying to back up your beliefs about AP tests with your college reps saying that a rigorous high school curriculum is vital. Why mention high school curriculum at all when AP test scores have nothing to do with it? You were trying to back up your statements with a non sequitor. </p>
<p>I think that generalization of AP scores' influence of college admission is a bit too speculative and/or generalized. They say in the next paragraph that AP scores help get students college credit, but we all know several schools that don't give any credit at all for AP tests. </p>
<p>I may be a bit biased because I did so much research on Stanford's admissions that I may have been generalizing their policies. However, a reputable school like Stanford usually has their admissions process mimicked by many other schools. Here's what Stanford says about AP test scores:</p>
<p>"AP scores that are reported are acknowledged but very rarely play a significant role in the evaluation of that application."</p>
<p>Source:
Stanford:</a> Applying to Stanford | Academic Preperation</p>
<p>There, something that's not a "belief" but a fact.</p>
<p>no, if I had started to talk about dancing hippos, then that would've be a non sequitor</p>
<p>Yes, but just because you didn't talk about dancing hippos doesn't mean high school curriculum isn't another non sequitor. That one's called Fallacy of the Consequent. (I don't have them memorized, I just look them up on wikipedia whenever I need to bust them out lol)</p>
<p><a href="I%20don't%20have%20them%20memorized,%20I%20just%20look%20them%20up%20on%20wikipedia%20whenever%20I%20need%20to%20bust%20them%20out%20lol">quote</a>
[/quote]
Heh, this made me laugh. I love wikipedia.</p>