AP World History Free Response Discussion

<p>So it's that time! </p>

<p>What do you guys think for this point of view? </p>

<p>It was something like- "Analyzing point of view is very important when considering document 6. At a time when the soviet union was experiencing increasing problems, the olympic games were used to speak wonders of the nation and its accomplishments. It is called an "honor" and a "beacon of...social progress." It is likely that someone from the united states would have a different opinion" It's a little dumb but would that work?</p>

<p>I also talked about how the author of document 10's POV in how he displays nationalist sentiment and how the woman in document 8 reflects a common woman's sentiment at the time (ironically, I didn't include that in the POV paragraph but that may work and the Soviet one may not!)</p>

<p>I grouped documents 2 and 8 as both were women competitors 6,7,9,10 for media (economic) influence 2,4,8 for all being competitors in the games and something like 1,3,4,5 for political influence Sound okay (you should only need 3)?</p>

<p>For additional document I said one from a woman who didn't compete in the games, or one from either an American or Soviet lower/middle class man during the time of the Soviet Olympic games (and I went on to discuss why this is important). Sound good?</p>

<p>For an additional document, I used one about the 2008 Olympics in Beijing, because not only would it be a more recent document, but it would indicate how factors such as political controversys (i.e. Tibet) would influence the modern olympic games.</p>

<p>Document number six was pretty weird. It was referring to the SOVIET UNION as a beacon of democracy, etc, not the Olympic Games. I thought that was pretty weird.</p>

<p>Wierd? It's propaganda of course!! That's why I used it as my point of view!</p>

<p>I think you had the right interpretation.. dunno about ur grouping. </p>

<p>I grouped it by time, at first the olympics were just developing and were based on uniting nations and women had a weak represntation at the olympics. </p>

<p>The second time (1950s-1960s) I said, it was a time of nationalist competition, and the struggle for non-modernized countries to get representations. </p>

<p>Then the 3rd time, (1980s) i said, it was honor and represntation, and the last time (21st century), i said it was a time for commercial usage, and honor. </p>

<p>I have a feeling i interpreted them wrong.. and that i had a bad grouping.. Is that what others did?..</p>

<p>How about the other essays??</p>

<p>If you guys have taken ap test before, how hard are they on grading the essays?? Is it fairly hard to get at least a 4 on it if you tried and had some stuff that is true?</p>

<p>Just wondering, this was my first ap.</p>

<p>I mean a 4 on the essay, not on the test as a whole...I know the essay is out of 9 possible total points...just clearing that up. lol</p>

<p>as long as u have a thesis and groupings and good on MC.</p>

<p>btw i just grouped the docs into political (cold war, etc.), economic (japan, revenue chart) , and social (feminism) factors/effects is that okay you think?</p>

<p>also for q2 i screwed up and accidentally mentioned suez canal :( do you think i automatically get -1 for that or will the other great amount of info even it out?</p>

<p>I was thinking about using the Beijing Olympics, but dismissed it LAST MINUTE, because the question asked to analyze things from 1890s-2002 that shaped current Olympics, and the Beijing Olympics is 2008, which is out of the range. Not sure if it would count or not, so I changed it for a controversial article on steroid use that would spur talk of the event, hence popularizing it even more.</p>

<p>@ panky14:
When you get your scores in the mail in the middle of July, they don't tell you what your raw score on the MC was or your essay scores are. They just give you a number between 1-5. So, no past World History test takers will know how hard they grade the essays.</p>

<p>@ specnaz01:
On the AP World History test, you can not lose points for wrong information. They just don't give you a point for wrong information.</p>

<p>They grade based on a rubric. If the point is there it's there but if it isn't then it's not. There is very little interpretation involved.</p>

<p>In the event that there is a difference between 2 readers (each essay, 2 graders) and the two scores differ by a point, they give you the higher one. If they differ by more a third grader will read it.</p>

<p>My teacher graded these essays last year. He says they honestly try there best to find all the possible points they can (if you give someone too little points, you get yelled at and he did once) but if the points aren't there what can they do?</p>

<p>aiight so... emergence of nation states has to do something with decolonization, balfour declaration, oil industries, pakistan, israel, bloody revolts and stuff right....?????????????? and the indian ocean thing - I mentioned portuguese and the Ming dynasty... thats on track right..? For the DBQ i only grouped them into positive/negative factors... would that be enough?? but i did like sub-groups thematically within those two....so....... AGHHHHH i dont wanna wait for my score !!@!</p>

<p>Wow, what was the time period on the DBQ? I think I might have written the wrong year in my first paragraph thesis statement lol. I thought it was like 1980/90 something to 2002.</p>

<p>1896-2002
10char</p>

<p>Ok on my first essay i did these grouping
Political Influence in olympics
Country pride
and women (change in rights, inclusion in sports over the years etc)</p>

<p>second essay:
I talked about China, zheng he, india, islamic empires, and even some europeans although that was near the end </p>

<p>last essay: i talked mainly about nigeria's independence and contrasted it with mexicos independence. i also brought up pedro in brazil, simon bolivar and the l'ouveretted guy in haiti, since that was the first latin american revolution</p>

<p>i really didnt know exactly what to put for 3rd essay but i mentioned some vague things:</p>

<p>-why nationstates arose and what they were
-shi'a and sunni sects wanted unity and separateness from each other which later was just more fuel for the conflict</p>

<p>my thesis was like Throughout the 19th century, nation-states were created throughout the middle east and latin america but for different purposes and in different ways. </p>

<p>then i had some other bs.</p>

<p>would i get like any pts for that?</p>

<p>gossamerlt: wow i had those same groupings lol</p>

<p>OK is it just me or is it really weird that the "THIS IS SPARTA" fad starts up the same year the WH exam has the DBQ on Greece? I probably would have written it if I was absolutely certain I would get a 5. But I'm not 100% certain.</p>

<p>DBQ: Grouped them by political motives, social aspects/changes (the women docs), and economic factors. </p>

<p>Compare/Contrast: I did Mid East vs. Latin America. I mostly talked about how the Latin American revolutions forced the development of nation-states while religious conflict led to nation-states in the Mid East. I must have used the Balfour declaration a million times when talking about israel.</p>

<p>Change over time: You don't want to know. I did terrible on this one.</p>

<p>Just a quick question.. On the DBQ i interpreted them all correctly, and had the right analysis and answered the question w/ all of them. However, my grouping method, made the essay kinda wierd, where i did the grouping through time period. Will that count against me?</p>