Appealing an A-

<p>Err… that could’ve been done in a couple lines, not a couple hundred. That’s straight up hard-coding the assignment, which is something that you should never do. Like turning in 20 pages for a 2 page paper. You’re right though… that was not explicitly stated in the rubric. But it shouldn’t have to be, since it’s pretty much a basic tenet of programming. And if you didn’t learn that in an intro compsci course, you might just have deserved that A-. If you knew you could use a for loop, why didn’t you? You can’t say that you knew after the fact. Anyways, for a final project, that’s pretty lame, but I don’t think you deserve a full 20/50 points taken off for that. But turning in something like that for a final project in high school might have the teacher requesting a re-submission.</p>

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<p>Assumes facts not already in evidence, “counselor.”</p>

<p>That’s great and all NWrnnr5, but there’s an objective grading method which he claims to have used yet there’s an inexplicable twenty point deduction for “Functionality” which is not even possible considering that portion of the rubric only constitues ten points on the project’s fifty point scale. </p>

<p>He wanted to give me an A- instead of an A because he does not think I showed mastery of the For Next loop on the final, but his botched attempts to disguise that reasoning for the grade deduction will cost him dearly. </p>

<p>30% Projects
30% Mid-Term
30% Final
10% Participation</p>

<p>I don’t see any % for Student’s Mastery of Course Material.</p>

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Because you haven’t, you subhuman trash.</p>

<p>rymd, I wouldn’t equate it to turning in 20 pages for a 2 page paper because he never said there was a limit to the number of lines either.</p>

<p>And I don’t think there should have been 20/50 points taken off either but he clearly did it because he understood that a 35 or higher would give me an A for the course.</p>

<p>But I would. Both are unreasonable. If he didn’t teach that to you, now I see a legitimate reason to go to the head of the department, but I’m thinking you just didn’t quite learn that.
And Brahmin, and everyone else still yapping about the A- thing - if what he says is true, he has both a true and ******** reason to appeal his grade</p>

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<p>I’d put that down as completely unreadable. Especially if that just some of the lines, and it goes on like that, for different options. You know, if it’s impossible to get an overview of the code on a normal computer screen, then that’s not really readable.</p>

<p>In any case: I see that you posted the following, which I assume is the assignment, on another board:

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<p>I’m pretty certain that you’ve completely missed the point of the what the calcDouble() function should do. If we weren’t just plain stiff and literal-minded, I’d say you’ve basically failed to follow the assignment instructions right there. But you seem to be the literal-minded type, so I guess you could argue that “hey, I used a function called calcDouble(), nevermind what it actually does.” Pretty silly argument, but even so you should still be docked points for “Naming Conventions - 10”. </p>

<p>Basically, I’m certain that morally, you’ve missed the whole point of the course, don’t really know anything about programming, and certainly don’t deserve an A. I don’t think you even deserve an A-. I think that professors should be given some freedom to use their good judgement in setting grades. Not every situation can be covered by a rubric, and so if I were in charge, you’d certainly not get any A.</p>

<p>I also think you’re attitude is despicable, and hope that you don’t make it to law school, because the spirit you’ve displayed here is not what I want to see in the lawyers of this nation. </p>

<p>Also, for your own sake, I hope you won’t go through with the appeal, because it’d just label you as a grade-grubber and damage you in the long run.</p>

<p>Having cleared all that up, nevertheless, none of that seems to be what you’re actually arguing. You seem to be saying that the grade given on that assignment is incorrect according to the letter of the rubric. (It clearly isn’t if you go by the spirit.) Here, I’m inclined to agree with you, but you have to understand that it’s very hard to make a call on that, since you’ve only shown us selected parts of the rubric, selected parts of the prof’s email, and selected parts of the code on the assignment. As I’ve said, I get the feeling there’s some cherry-picking going on. If you really want people to agree with you, you better give us the complete picture.</p>

<p>It seems that your major complaint is that your professor didn’t tell you EXACTLY how to write the program. He wanted you to choose the best method, which isn’t hard-coding, but to use a for loop. It doesn’t matter that hard-coding “works;” hard-coding is not the right way to code this program. Your complaints are like saying that you got a bad grade on an essay because you wrote it at a first-grade level (despite the fact that you COULD write a college-level essay, you didn’t, because the rubric didn’t tell me that college-level work was required on the final).</p>

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<p>I think that’s kind of the point of every class…ever…that you’ll ever take…in your whole life. Yeah. I think that’s what grades are sort of intended to measure, yes?</p>

<p>PS, the tags are wonderful :D</p>

<p>^lol I bet you’re the one who keeps adding the cormy tags</p>

<p>I’m actually not! I wish I was that clever! </p>

<p>I would like to know who it is though! I feel like it’s someone who posts pretty frequently.</p>

<p>“Revenge of the cormy” is mine, though none of the others are.</p>

<p>Edit: Wow, some of these are getting pretty graphic.</p>

<p>Edit2: Take a look at this: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/tags/[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/tags/&lt;/a&gt; . Mine doesn’t even get a mention!</p>

<p>Evaluation Method:
The final course grade will be based on the following criteria:
· Lab Projects: 30%
· Midterm Exam: 30%
· Final Exam: 30%
· Class Activities / Group work / Attendance: 10%</p>

<p>And you can find the rubric at this address: </p>

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<p>I’m going to go through with the appeal and I wouldn’t have lost points on CalcDouble on the Naming Conventions element as you said. All of the objects on the VB form were named correctly. </p>

<p>That code I showed you was the exact same one for the 60 days radio button, the 90 days radio button, and the 120 days radio button except those were obviously longer. </p>

<p>You’re saying I missed the whole point of the course morally but I really didn’t. The point of the course was… to get an A.</p>

<p>Nope, you keep missing the point. Probably because you’re a ■■■■■■ who can’t even succeed at the lowest level of academia, let alone a real university. Maybe posting this for the third time will get you closer to understanding your situation:</p>

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<p>You had points taken off for using poor vocabulary and rambling sentence structure.</p>

<p>A person who is asked to write an essay in a university class, will get points taken off for writing it at an elementary school level. Even if there was no explicit mention for writing the essay at a college level.</p>

<p>Some things are implicit, because professors assume their students to have a common sense. You seem to lack it completely, because your level of intelligence is below the average.</p>

<p>Brahmin… Brahmin… Brahmin…</p>

<p>I bet you’re that shy scrawny kid in the back of my statistics class who wouldn’t dare say things like this in person.</p>

<p>I’m still inclined to believe that the OP is a ■■■■■… Either way, this thread is hilarious.</p>

<p>DreamingBig: </p>

<p>I asked you to post the whole code. ([url=<a href=“http://■■■■■■■■■■■■/]Pastebin[/url”>http://■■■■■■■■■■■■/]Pastebin[/url</a>], as someone mentioned earlier, can work wonders.) In reply, you said this:</p>

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<p>So I can only assume there weren’t any comments in the code then? Another reason to deduct points then. Or was there comments?</p>

<p>See, that’s why we’re asking you to post your complete code. Without that, nobody’s in a position to see what your work actually is. (It’s not like anyone’s gonna steal your code, though.)</p>

<p>I’m still inclined to say that you have a case though, but only because the rubric was not written in an idiot-proof enough way.</p>

<p>Really, with that rubric, if you were literal about it, I could submit a dialog box with an (aesthetically pleasing) image of a flower in it, name the flower object appropriately, make an empty flow chart, include the following code</p>

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Private Sub Form_Click()
'Do nothing
End Sub

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<p>and turn in it in on time, and I should get an 80 on the assignment. Because it technically satisfies all the points of the rubric except the “Project must work as intended” part. </p>

<p>Clearly, this is not what’s intended. So I guess whoever wrote it just didn’t quite grasp how many entitled idiots out there will just completely miss the point and take every word literally.</p>

<p>^ There were comments in the source code (About 10 of them).
Really what’s the point of posting them?
They’re basically just:
‘These are the variable declarations’
‘This is calcDouble function which is used for the major calculation in the program’.
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<p>It’s funny that you mention that because the professor actually said in his early classes: “I don’t get why everyone did so poorly on project #1! Look at the rubric! All you have to do is do a flowchart with pseudocode, set the form up properly, include the comments, and submit it on time, and the project can just implode when you run it, and you’ll get an 80! I don’t understand why people insist on not doing the flowchart or not entering source code comments. It’s like giving away free points.” </p>

<p>Also what’s the point of posting the whole code? It’s huge and I already gave you the most important part of it, the only part I lost points on. </p>

<p>His rubric is horrible like I’ve been saying all along. I’m getting an A in this class.</p>

<p>Dude. Yes that professor is being self-contradictory and his unwavering attitude may be annoying, but just use those things to reassure that you are truly smarter than him in more than one way. Honestly if ONE A- RUINs your life then… Really, man, just worry about more important things. As I said an attempt should be made to resolve this, seemingly subjective behavior, but in the long run of life, it’s just a pathetic “letter.” It doesn’t define you because obviously you are very bright.</p>

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<p>After seeing your code, I am REALLY curious what your flow chart looks like. Does it have several hundred states as well?</p>