<p>Why are you still posting here? You’re not going to convince people, and you don’t need to convince people here. You should probably just drop it on this thread before you create even more animosity. I hope you get the grade you deserve, whatever that may be.</p>
<p>I don’t know who this guy thinks he is.</p>
<p>You have a feeling this is a checklist and if you do everything – regardless of whether you really understand what you’re doing – you “should” get an A. Wrong. Even with a rubric, there’s that “A” factor. It assures this student really “got it”. If the student is a grade-grubber, tops will be an A-. </p>
<p>I had a student like this once. As a writer, she really cared about her grades, but she simply didn’t have the skills/talent. It didn’t matter what I said or how I tried to help her learn how to be a better writer. She just wanted an A. Period. Her grade, no matter how she bickered about doing all the things on the rubric: A-</p>
<p>^ My gripe is about the grade reduction without basis. Nothing on his rubric warrants a twenty point reduction. </p>
<p>If he was allowed to grade arbitrarily, there wouldn’t be any need for a rubric.
And on a small sidenote, I feel bad for that girl in your English class. She seems to have mistakenly chosen a teacher with a bit of an attitude problem, possibly stemming from her own life position.</p>
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<em>headdesk</em>
there’s something you’re not understanding about computer science here. something as easy to program like that SHOULD NOT BE HARDCODED! that code would probably give me heartburn if I was older and a cs professor. as a final project, you should be failed. now you’ve already established that you objectively and unfairly lost more points than possible on the rubric, but for the subjective side of your argument, you’ve lost. you may have learned how to program, but you have not learned how to program. it doesn’t matter what the end result is. the methodology is critical. and a ****ton of people who’ve taken cs classes or are cs majors… people who have taken your class and beyond… have already said it many times, but you’re too stubborn to accept it =/</p>
<p>forget the rubric. you’ve missed the whole point of the class.</p>
<p>@Dreaming Big
If I was a CS professor, I would take off points for not using a loop, despite “following” the rubric. Part of CS is learning how to write programs efficiently, and taking 250 lines of code to write something that should take <10 lines to write deserves a major point deduction. Also, those 200+ lines of extra code make your code unreadable, which warrants a further grade deduction.</p>
<p>int doubleCurrency(time,currency)
{</p>
<p>for(i=0;i<time;i++)
{</p>
<p>currency=currency*2;
}
return currency;
}</p>
<p>This is a lot more readable than what you did with 250 lines of code.</p>
<p>^ OK I know but the grading on the rubric is clearly objective. There is no way he can justify a 30/50 using the rubric. The rubric is what he used to grade the final exam project. If he does not follow the rubric he’s alienating me from the rest of the students. If he follows the rubric, I have earned an A for the course.</p>
<p>Like I said… mastery of course material does not factor into the grading as explained on the syllabus, so why should it downgrade me from an A to an A-? </p>
<p>It shouldn’t. I’m going to appeal this until they change it and give me the grade I earned.</p>
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Assuming he used it for everyone but you?</p>
<p>Though I can see how he could get that result with the rubric.</p>
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You think you should get an A without learning the material? Well…</p>
<p>This is an amazing example of the worst possible traits a student could have. I feel sorry for your comp sci professor. I know people who have been given 0 points for doing a math problem a different way than the teacher showed them, and I have gotten less points when presenting the right answer next to a wrong one, but this is just ridiculous.</p>
<p>^ I obviously learned much of the material because I got a 98 on the Mid-Term and three very questionable 90’s (because they should have all been 100’s) on three of the programming projects. </p>
<p>The funniest thing is how in our e-mails the professor tried to get me to be submissive and accept my grade by saying “be happy, go out and celebrate. You did very well in a hard course.” (Yeah that thing wasn’t hard, he gives himself too much credit) But as soon as I sent him an e-mail questioning his grading of the final exam project, he got defensive and sent me an inflammatory e-mail, daring me to go to the department chairperson because he “doesn’t have time to quibble with me.”</p>
<p>You should. And then you’ll finally figure out that they don’t care at all and they’ll laugh at you. Honestly, do you think that a professor will get fired even if you annoy them until you’re out of college? It’s more likely they’ll kick you out than him.</p>
<p>Great, Stevenf. That’s them. Not me. I fight back when a professor tries to ruin me with a grade I didn’t deserve.</p>
<p>How will an A- “ruin” you? You’ve already said that you have gotten lower grades…</p>
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<p>Yes, it does, in the same way that an essay written at a first-grade level is “fine.” Yet if your English professor gave you a bad grade for writing at a first-grade level in a college class, would you complain that the rubric didn’t say that you had to write at a college level?</p>
<p>The idea of programming is to make the code as efficient as possible. If you can’t understand that, then shouldn’t your grade reflect that?</p>
<p>DreamingBig, you were told 4 times why you got points taken off. The analogy was that you were asked to write an essay for your college class, which you have written without any grammatical mistakes. However, you wrote it with a vocabulary and a sentence structure of a first-grader, for which you got points taken off.</p>
<p>Edit: Haha, I guess you were told 5 times!</p>
<p>But seriously, how hard is it to comprehend this situation, even for a mentally challenged liberal arts major at a community college like yourself?</p>
<p>Most of those grades were deserved. I admit I deserved a B- in General Chemistry.
The only other grade I should have appealed was my Political Philosophy grade two years ago (B). I clearly earned an A in that course but because it was my first semester in college and I was bit hesitant about challenging a professor, I decided not to.
I wish I had challenged that professor. He did not help my life out one bit with that undeserved B.</p>
<p>Acuraman, exactly. You would think an English major would figure that out.
Just because you thought that math and the hard sciences weren’t subjective, it turns out they are. Be happy enough with an A-; if you fight it, all you will lose is the respect of other teachers and time.</p>
<p>Well anyway I’m done with you guys. You clearly don’t understand that this deduction has no place on his rubric and is completely subjective. </p>
<p>If he wanted efficiency and For Next, he should have made a Final Exam Rubric explaining that. It’s not my fault he’s a complete idiot and is barely qualified to teach an intro to programming course. (One of the worst rubrics I have ever seen)</p>
<p>I don’t care about the computer science professors. I care about my grades. They can go play World of Warcraft or something, don’t really care about them. Just want my grade fixed. I’m going to fight this so hard and give them hell over it. They just messed with the wrong guy.</p>
<p>What school are you in, anyway?</p>
<p>^ Are you a stalker?</p>