<p>YEY!!! so it is possible! Thank god. But Art, how much do you study per day? How much homework do you get? Do you have a social life per se outside of school or is there really no time?</p>
<p>One of my best friends is majoring in Civil Engineering at Cal and he got a 4.0 at his CC. When he went to Berkeley, his GPA dropped to a 3.2 in his first year. He’s now in his second year and he said he’s around a 3.5 now. </p>
<p>He keeps saying how he thought CC math and engineering courses are basically a joke, but now his competition at Cal has drastically increased. He has to go to all of his lectures, use office hours and tutor hours, and not cram the night before.</p>
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<p>yes. at least two for each class, each between 5 and 10 pages, depending on the prof. </p>
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<p>yes and no. your UC GPA, for the purposes of Latin / Departmental / College Honors, does start with a clean slate. however (and i’ve learned this the very, very hard way), when it comes to grad school, everything you’ve ever done anywhere will be factored in. this includes insufficient grades retaken for sufficient grades, as well as grades that have been removed from factorization in your CC / UC GPAs as a result of academic renewal. </p>
<p>again, every grade you’ve ever received for credit attempted will count toward your overall GPA when it comes to grad schools (law + med + masters + phd + etc).</p>
<p>pinker, what would you say the average gpa of a philosophy major transfer is at ucla? like what gpa do philosophy majors normally get once they transfer? significantly lower? on par? thnx man</p>
<p>from what i’ve observed, most get B’s and B+'s.
also, from what i’ve observed, most don’t do the reading, but go to class / section, feel like they know what they’re talking, but don’t know what they’re talking about, and i can only assume that their lack of understanding translates directly into their papers / grades.</p>
<p>i didn’t mean to scare off the science/engineering majors…most of my friends who transferred in sciences/engineering do fine. At CAL, most of friends who transferred in engineering and chem dropped to a B+ avg. (3.4) which is pretty good still, while most of my friends who transferred to ucd have around the same gpa (although slightly lower). If you get your work done, I’m sure you’ll be fine.</p>
<p>Also check out these sites, they’ll help you when u transfer.</p>
<p>*oofers.com (old tests and grade distributions)
replace * with k, i got censored
myedu.com (cost 10 buks) works great fro those still in cc as it has most cc grade distributions</p>
<p>u rock pinker…</p>
<p>Yes my social life has decreased quite a bit, but I still go to parties and the beach and stuff. not as much as much as other people from different majors would. But i still have a great time. you just got to keep your priorities straight, but remember its not always about grades. When I look back 10 years from now i don’t want to say that all i did in college was study…</p>
<p>Why do people major in philosophy or any cultural studies?</p>
<p>Because that is where their interests lie?</p>
<p>What jobs can you get with a bachelors in philosophy, history, African studies?</p>
<p>That’s what google is for- </p>
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<p>But I assume you don’t actually care, and are just trying to **** people off. Thanks, I like what I’m studying.</p>
<p>Hey Ed,
I’m a Bioengineering major. I got accepted to Jacob’s. Have you been accepted yet?</p>
<p>If not, stop acting elite over everyone here. As an engineering student, I’m ashamed of people like you and would definitely not study with you. </p>
<p>The general consensus is, as college students we’re supposed to abandon petty differences and elitist perspectives. Leave ideologies like that to the hoodlums and pretentious ignorant masses that we as scholars are supposed to educate by example. </p>
<p>Or did you amply forget, that while engineers and physicists are some of the premier quantitative minds in post secondary education, we would never get into these schools without equally exemplary liberal arts achievements? Or did you just put a double variable integration problem on your application essay and then give a rigorous solution to get accepted? </p>
<p>Lest you forget, behind engineering graduates as far as income goes, the next highest paying bachelors is in contrast economics and not another science degree. Case in point, physics majors are one of the most underpaid undergraduate degrees, followed closely by chemistry and biology. </p>
<p>This illusion that science majors make big bucks really needs to end now. If you’re engineering, sure you are capable of making good money. But undergraduate chemistry, biology, physics and math degrees net you about the same income as “African Studies” or “History”. But at least the people studying those degrees love what they do, and didn’t get into it with the disbelief that it’d land them $60k a year jobs. But I’m sure you researched how much your degree earns you before you declared it, right?</p>
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<p>I put an inverse Laplace transform IVP problem on mine. /nerd</p>
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<p>Aint that the truth. I’d even go a bit farther and state that you’re not guaranteed the big bucks even with a graduate degree in the sciences. Post-docs make sh1te-all, to be blunt. We’re not in this thing for the $$$, but to discover the truth of the world around us.</p>
<p>Even as an engineer, you’ll only make a middle-class living until you progress into management. If money is all that matters to you, then your best bet is a professional career (lawyer, doctor, etc.).</p>
<p>Oh no it’s not. </p>
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<p>Well, quite honestly, I was thinking about Lawyers engaged in private practice when I made my statement.</p>
<p>Liberal arts degree is a huge gamble in this economy, especially if you want to pay off your student loans after graduation with a decent paying job. Unless your scholarships/grants or mommy/daddy cover your tuition/housing, then you don’t have to worry about it.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it looks like a bad trend of very tough rejections are coming for engineering students applying to graduate school. So I’d definitely wage that anyone planning on a career based on statistics of income, needs to re-evaluate what this economy means. </p>
<p>Sure, it’s possible that in two years we’ll have bounced back, but why gamble like that? </p>
<p>This is the only chance we get to earn our first bachelor’s degree. It shapes you as a person. A second bachelor’s isn’t the same thing. </p>
<p>I truly believe that your undergraduate college years define you more as a person than any other passage in life. I applaud liberal arts majors. They walked into that major knowing the economic turnout they face after graduation. Science majors who think they’re on the way to living some prestigious life of high income and private meetings with politicians to talk about the climate changes or some rare DNA strand they discovered in some deep sea creature, are the ones who are going to college with the wrong idea.</p>
<p>ixr - Even science degrees are a terrible gamble in this economy. Chemist I’s earn about $15 an hour. That’s with a BS in Chemistry and 1 year of experience. My friend’s happy about getting an interview for a job earning $16 an hour as a Chemist and she’s graduating from Davis, BS in Chemistry with a 3.4 GPA. </p>
<p>Biologists? Don’t even get me started. </p>
<p>Physicists? You can’t do anything with a BS in Physics. That’s a research heavy industry. A Ph.D is mandatory and just having it doesn’t even guarantee you access to great research labs. My friend’s cousin graduated honors from Cornell, Ph.D in Physics and she’s getting a job. But get this, she has been in the market ever since getting her BS in Physics and she never so much as got an interview until she got her Master’s, to teach Physics at a community college. But she never got an interview for a researcher position until she got her Ph.D.</p>
<p>@Essenar: That’s the situation with most of the sciences unfortunately. I’m majoring in Earth Sciences, so I know up-front that I won’t even be considered for a professional position until I secure a master’s-- minimum.</p>