<p>When you apply out of state to a state university, how much lower are your chances of getting into them as compared to applying in state? Do you need significantly better stats and ECs as well?</p>
<p>I'm going to apply to either SUNY Binghamton or SUNY Stony Brooks and I have a 3.58 GPA, top 10% of my class and 1270 SAT (M+CR, 690 W).</p>
<p>Can those schools safely be considered safety schools for me considering I'm applying OOS?</p>
<p>I don’t know much about Stony Brook but Binghamton wouldn’t be a safety with 1270 even if you were instate. You have a decent shot but they’re definitely not safeties.</p>
<p>There are no hard and fast rules about OOS admissions. At some schools it is quite a bit harder, at other about the same. Gender can sometimes play a role. At Wm&Mary it is extremely difficult for OOS women to get admitted, for men not so much. The presence big time Division I football and/or engineering draws more men to apply and at the these schools the reverse may be true. This is the case at VaTech, one of Wm&Mary’s sister institutions.</p>
<p>You need better information to get an idea about the schools you are asking about. Try the common data set information, section C. This provides a lot of information including admissions for men and women. They do not provide IS vs. OOS info, but that may be obtainable elsewhere. Here’s a link to get you started. <a href=“Office of Institutional Research - Office of Institutional Research | Binghamton University”>Office of Institutional Research - Office of Institutional Research | Binghamton University;
<p>With respect to safeties, affordability is equally important to admissions. Make sure the OOS price tag doesn’t make it impossible to attend without big loans. Don’t expect much in the way of fin aid from OOS public U’s, even if you have a low EFC.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>^This is exactly right. You should post this on the forum for that school because those students are probably most knowledgeable. Because seriously, some state schools admit tons of OOS (UMich, UMinn) and then there others who only accept OOS with ivy league stats (University of Washington used to be like that).</p>
<p>Penn State posted on their website that they do not have any difference in admission standards between in-state and out of state. There is no instate preference. Penn State is now 1/3 out of state. However, it is moderately difficult to get admitted to the main campus as a freshman.</p>
<p>U. of Delaware is a very interesting school that is 2/3rds out of state. Their out of state tuition is mid-priced, and they do give their own need-based and merit aid to out of state (which some colleges do not). </p>
<p>I’d personally hesitate to be an out of state student to a state school that is 97% in-state students. It kind of tells you that: a) you may feel out of place, b) many students will disappear on weekends , c) many students may hang out in cliques from their own high school, and d) most applicants don’t think the college is worth the out of state tuition rates.</p>
<p>New York has had some of the cheapest out of state tuition rates among public colleges in the Northeast. However, I don’t expect that to last for long. There is a proposal in the Legislature to allow the SUNYs to set their own tuition rates with permission of the Legislature, and the intent is that Binghampton and Stony Brook could significant raise their tuition so they can increase their quality. </p>
<p>You seriously need to consider whether any out of state college is worth the extra tuition.</p>
<p>I would also pay close attention to climate and traffic. If you love winter sports, a college in western NY state may be great. However, I imagine it would get really depressing by March when you are still not seeing any signs of spring.</p>
<p>I would imagine that driving to Stony Brook from other states would not be the most pleasant experience, unless you do it very early on a Sunday morning.</p>