<p>Recently, I was visiting an arch program and before I could even ask about the all-nighter business, the faculty guy showing me around was talking about how usually, they do it because they want to, because it's fun to be with your friends at 3am coming up with solutions to this and that and the other. I also talked to some girls in the program and they said it's all time-management, and pointed out some people who are NEVER there because they have everything done, and others who are ALWAYS there. So...that helped reassure me, maybe it'll make some of you feel better, too? I hope so.</p>
<p>True. I'd like to counter, though, that many of the people that are never there are the people that slap something together in a couple of hours, turn it in, get a C or D, don't care, and will probably end up failing out at some point. Among all the people that really do good work, though some work faster than others, a serious time commitment is inherent. It just depends when you want to put in that time: every evening, consistently, or in a couple of long nights, as solid chunks. The latter often works better because you can focus for many hours on the task you want to get done.</p>
<p>hey people, if you'd like to help, please post your stats/results/advice on the condensed arch thread in the Other College Majors forum!</p>
<p>i was scanning through this forum. here are some thoughts!</p>
<p>leirbag-if you really love architecture, it's probably not worth pursuing other degrees. i see your situation. you should check into University of Arizona's B.arch program. it's not that hard to get into and it's a really great program. i don't think it's too late to apply..but you should do it soon. another option is to transfer after your first year..so get rid of electives at uscd. transfering into other arch schools is pretty competitive so continue to work on your portfolio.</p>
<p>as for others..if you know what you want to do in life....</p>
<p>never listen to 'the advice'.</p>
<p>the time issue. i was just at cornell and plenty of kids are involved in full blown sports, clubs, etc etc. they do, however, keep architecture as their number 1 priority. plus "all-nighters" include work plus party/dance/jokes/good times mixed into it. i dunno bout the rest of you, but im looking forward to spending most of my time in the studio, whether it be during the day or all night! im still looking forward to intramurals and extracurriculars though.</p>
<p>side note- some archies think WAY too much, and im paraphrasing from current students. spending all day and night on projects usually does the project no good. tim management, period.</p>
<p>hey guys,</p>
<p>I've been considering McGill's (canada) architecture program.. anyone have opinions on the school and program? I've been reading MaClean's University guide and it said that engineering (architecture) school requires marks from 75-87.. so for architecture, do you think it's at the high range or low range? Also, I always thought that not much people are planning to take architecture ( most of them want engineering or business or life science),. but then i always here people say that architecture is a very competitve course.. so is it because lots of people are interested, or is it just because of the small admission rates?</p>
<p>im also considering mcgill, but as a backup for arch. Its a Bsc program, not Barch, so you'll need to take atleast one year of physics.</p>
<p>speaking of cooper union, every year two people from my school go there (10 people from the West coast get in every year), and it's true that they usually only accept students from Magnet schools or high schools with architecture (e.g. if you live in San Francisco, Lowell and Lick-Wilmerding)</p>
<p>yeah, bneg, but i can't find the cond arch thread....:)been a long while....</p>
<p>hi! everyone! hope you all land in the best places/programs for you. all the best.</p>
<p>hi Jcro and jimminy...hope the going's great, too!</p>
<p>j'rock</p>
<p>can't believe you're here!</p>
<p>arabesque so whats the big decision???</p>
<p>hey jcro -- I'm going to Rice :D (although still hopelessly waiting for cornell waitlist news). It was between USC and Rice...it was really hard to choose haha, but no regrets!! You're going to Rice right? We'll surely be studio mates since there's only 1 studio for freshmen!</p>
<p>btw jcro--owl weekend was awesome. the only thing I have against rice is the weather: hot & humid!</p>
<p>"I went to visit Cornell and talked to a student there-- 4th yr arch student. He said that it is actually good to get a bachelors in other major unrelated to architecture, and then get m.arch in architecture. Good grad-arch schools like those kinds of people because they're different, have a 'fresh' perspective about architecture, and have the potential to be more deviant." </p>
<p>Absolutely. The top two architecture schools - Yale and Harvard - pretty much exclusively take students who did a B.A. in liberal arts and then go on to get their M.Arch.</p>
<p>"The top two architecture schools - Yale and Harvard - pretty much exclusively take students who did a B.A. in liberal arts and then go on to get their M.Arch"</p>
<p>Well, duh!! It would be absolutely retarded and pointless to get a B.Arch and then a M.Arch I. They're exactly the same degrees. </p>
<p>For the M.Arch II, it's a different story. But, Harvard and Yale would pretty much exclusively take students who already have either the B.Arch or the M.Arch I degree. It's sort of required I believe.</p>
<p>Many congratulations, arabesque:)</p>
<p>Gomestar, what I'm saying is the best schools - with the best students - are ones that do not offer the B.Arch. So, because of that, there is clearly a difference in the degree.</p>
<p>posterX, it seems like you're basing the quality of the student and quality of school solely on the name.</p>
<p>So bneg, I take it now the DI rankings are NOT a measure of quality, while in the "condensed architecture thread" these very schools' undergraduate programs were bad because they were not ranked highly.</p>
<p>Your comment before regarding Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Yale and Stanford clearly states that you think they are bad since they have not been highly ranked by DI.
Bneg: "I dont think theyve ever made top 14 for undergraduates best from DI."
Clearly, in this case, you think DI a valid ranking.</p>
<p>However, now you are lamenting posterX for judging Harvard and Yale, the two most highly ranked schools according to DI, based on that ranking:
Bneg: "it seems like you're basing the quality of the student and quality of school solely on the name." </p>
<p>Which one is it? Is DI a good or a bad ranking system? It can't be both!</p>
<p>"However, now you are lamenting posterX for judging Harvard and Yale, the two most highly ranked schools according to DI, based on that ranking:"</p>
<p>ok snipanlol, I don't think you are helping any future applicants with your contradictory posts that I didn't even want to point out. Like you quoted me:</p>
<p>"I dont think theyve ever made top 14 for undergraduates best from DI."</p>
<p>so what's up with 'most highly ranked"? yeah, so there you go, answered your own question. If you're just trying to prove in anyway that HYPMS are indeed good, then go ahead but you should really save yourself the time and energy because even without your posts people are going to think that they are good. nice talking to you but I really wished it'd stop since all this convo is bringing is confusion to future applicants.</p>
<p>What I have been trying to prove is that HYPMS etc are good for undergraduate as well as graduate studies, it is just that their quality is not measured by DI rankings. You seemed to approve of the DI rankings when it suited you, and disprove of them when it didn't suit you. I wonder what is more confusing, you misrepresenting facts or me pointing out that facts are being misrepresented.</p>
<p>But you are right. We should stop this argument - it is getting silly. I have repeated the same thing a couple of times now, but you still believe that a ranking of employability is a good indicator of pre-professional programs.</p>
<p>I didn't intend you to become offended. I just pointed out faulty arguments on your side, and if that got you upset I am sorry.</p>