Are schools really need blind?

Paying for College
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<p>“meeting full need with big hunks of loans isn’t meeting the spirit of the definition”</p>

<p>Right; I think we generally accept federal loan limits (somewhere around $25k total over four years) as meeting the letter and spirit. These loans are quite managable over future decades and well worth the resulting education.</p>

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<p>In 2011, UVa accepted 46% of IS applicants, and 27% of OOS applicants.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.web.virginia.edu/iaas/data_catalog/institutional/historical/admission/first_by_residency.htm[/url]”>http://www.web.virginia.edu/iaas/data_catalog/institutional/historical/admission/first_by_residency.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>So if legacy status puts you in the IS pool, it would seem to give an OOS student at least a 70% boost. That’s pretty significant. Add on to that whatever other boost legacies are getting, it seems like a pretty big advantage.</p>

<p>I never have/had any trouble reading and understanding cptofthehouse’s posts, I don’t see any problem.</p>

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<p>Thanks, Norichenough. I was sloppy on some of them. I also used a lot of long, run on sentences. Mr. K keeps me on the straight and narrow in writing.</p>

<p>It’s a bigger differential than that, most likely, given the % in the OOS pool who are recruited athletes or have other special boosts going for them. Both kids I know who went to UVA were athletes and their stats were very much in the lower 25% of their test range, and their grades were not impressive either. Still, I know an OOS legacy who was denied with SAT scores as high as VADAD1’s DD. He went to school with my son. UVA admissions could not get into their heads that a 3.5 GPA was way up there at that independent school, something that ivies and like schools seemed to have no problem understanding. </p>

<p>As for in state, the effect would even be stronger. However, I don’t know how the 10% legacies figures compares to other State flagship schools or private schools. It doesn’t sound ominous to me.</p>

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<p>UVa is need blind. When I read an application, I have no access to (or interest in) the FAFSA, CSS Profile, or whatever else the folks at Student Financial Services require to generate financial aid packages. </p>

<p>The folks in the Office of Institutional Assessment fill out the CSD surveys. In doing do, they have to assign weight to a process that doesn’t have weight. Our notes are taken by prose and we don’t use a rubric or formula to assign values to application components (I have worked at schools that did use formulas, so the CDS method isn’t a problem for some schools). So, when asked to rank order components of the application as those surveys ask, it doesn’t always come out perfectly. </p>

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Sorry, but you are wrong on this one. Every school provides a profile that explains the GPA methodology at the school (along with grading scales, program, restrictions, etc.). That document is the first stop for every single file that we read…and we read them all.</p>

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<p>This thread is a YEAR old.</p>

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<p>Closing old thread.</p>