<p>My scores are in the range but I don't know if those are reliable (maybe athletes could bring the score down..etc). From past experience can anyone tell me if my scores are qualified enough?</p>
<p>720 Math, 720 CR, 710 Writing. Thanks.</p>
<p>Yeah your scores are fine.</p>
<p>your scores are fine. They will qualify you for admission, but they will not give you an edge. In the perfect world you have a 2200+</p>
<p>Your scores are fine.</p>
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They will qualify you for admission, but they will not give you an edge. In the perfect world you have a 2200+
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<p>In a perfect world, he'd be better off having kickass ECs or something. 2200+ doesn't come close to getting you in.</p>
<p>my ecs are nice for where i am at. probably the best in my school. i do it all and do it well with awards and stuff to prove it in all of them. state recognition in stuff and national recognition in debate.</p>
<p>i am kind of concerned that the Columbia app doesn't let me elaborate very much on my ECs. I've chosen to not write about ECs for my essay so I would stll like to show the admissions committee that i've been doing prolific stuff and staying in them for all 4 years of high school and also winning many awards and positions while i'm at it. not only that i like to make significant changes in the organization of a lot of groups...but i don't have space to talk about that either. What should i do?</p>
<p>you have space for the awards and for the other stuff...well let your recs demonstrate it since you don't have room too..</p>
<p>I'd argue that 2200+ hits the sweet spot, whereas 2300 would be ideal.</p>
<p>Your scores are fine.</p>
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I'd argue that 2200+ hits the sweet spot, whereas 2300 would be ideal.
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<p>also wrong and completely arbitrary</p>
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2200+ doesn't come close to getting you in.
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<p>to clarify, what i think C02 was saying is that there is no such thing as a magic number in terms of SAT score....not that 2200 is a low score...its just not gonna make you stand out in any way</p>
<p>it's really the subjective stuff (like essay, ECs, recs, why columbia, legacy status, etc) that gets you in once you have 2000+ SAT score, 700+ SAT IIs and a solid ~4.0 GPA with a rigorous course load.</p>
<p>2200 is the commonly sought number at which you reach a point where numbers higher than that begin to lose some of their importance. Obviously the higher the better, but anything lower than a 2200 or 2150 begins to be a slight weakness on your app for these super competitive schools. SATs can't get you in a school, but they certainly can keep you out. </p>
<p>FYI a 2000 SAT score is by no means a qualification for admission...700+ sat II yes, 4.0 gpa obviously, but a 2000 is pretty low for Ivies.</p>
<p>People always underestimate the SAT. Please remember that according to the data released by Princeton, kids with 2400's have a 50% shot and kids with 2300+ have a 20%+ shot.</p>
<p>That's a lot higher than the usual under 10% admissions rate and I doubt that Columbia is any different.</p>
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<p>actually high school kids like you and bescraze tend to give the overall SAT score way too much weight and make believe that there is some magic SAT score that makes u automatically qualified to attend an ivy league. There are so many people with perfect or near perfect SATs who get rejected every year and end up at less prestigious colleges mostly because they feel this sense of entitlement and submit a weak application. </p>
<p>I still stick by my assertion that a 2000+ SAT scores gets you the opportunity to have the rest of your application looked at seriously. </p>
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FYI a 2000 SAT score is by no means a qualification for admission...700+ sat II yes, 4.0 gpa obviously, but a 2000 is pretty low for Ivies.
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<p>Unlike these two highschool kids who make believe they know something, I have a degree on my wall that proves that an SAT score of 2000-2100 doesn't disqualify you from getting in to an ivy.</p>
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here are so many people with perfect or near perfect SATs who get rejected every year and end up at less prestigious colleges mostly because they feel this sense of entitlement and submit a weak application.
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You failed to disprove the fact that those people are far fewer than those with weaker SATs...Higher SATs correlates with higher acceptance rates.
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high school kids like you and bescraze tend to give the overall SAT score way too much weight
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I said " SATs can't get you in a school, but they certainly can keep you out." That is a commonly held fact by people who know anything about college admissions, try and keep some perspective.
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still stick by my assertion that a 2000+ SAT scores gets you the opportunity to have the rest of your application looked at seriously.
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There is a reason top schools have much higher median SAT scores than that. Since disregarding legacies, urms and athletes you need to have a high score to make up for them. If what you said is true than the average SAT scores would be much much lower...
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I have a degree on my wall that proves that an SAT score of 2000-2100 doesn't disqualify you from getting in to an ivy.
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Should I be impressed? Your egotism is impressive, but it fails to mean anything. I did say that 2100 really is the point where you can be considered, but a 2200+ is idea. First off getting into an ivy league was easier back when you applied and depending upon your age you may need to even add 90 points to your score since they re calibrated the SATs. Finally, many people who have degrees agree with my statement including college counselors and others. Finally seniors in HS live this, have friends who go through this and thus probably understand this situation more than a guy "with a degree on his wall" who applied years ago.</p>
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Higher SATs correlates with higher acceptance rates.
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There is a reason top schools have much higher median SAT scores than that.
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<p>higher SATs also correlate with good gpa, rigorous courseload and strong ECs....why must it be the SAT score that made the difference. There are many people at columbia and other ivies with lower SAT scores but only a handful who are deficient in those other areas. </p>
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First off getting into an ivy league was easier back when you applied and depending upon your age you may need to even add 90 points to your score since they re calibrated the SATs.
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<p>this is probably the stupidest thing that high school kids come around here saying all the time. The fact that the admissions rate is lower does NOT mean that its "harder" to get in. It just means that there are more applicants. There is no indication that the goal post has moved....can you show me that the average SATs have increased over the past few years? can you show me that kids who get accepted now have better GPAs? better ECs? </p>
<p>Also, add 90 points? what? why not 150 since we're just throwing out random numbers? </p>
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Finally seniors in HS live this, have friends who go through this and thus probably understand this situation more than a guy "with a degree on his wall" who applied years ago.
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<p>so if you know everything why are you here? why even bother talking to a college counselor?</p>
<p>Shraf, Bescraze, I'm going to have to ask you to keep your responses under 150 characters. Remember, these are rules both campaigns agreed to.</p>
<p>for what its worth:
740-Writing
730-Math
680-Critical Reading
700-World History
710-Math 1
And I'm sitting in Butler right now, should be working on my Lit Hum paper</p>
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<p>I'll make this easy. The posts by bescraze and caiacs are retarded.</p>
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Its not random and yes you just did lose all your credibility since you obviously have no clue about any of this stuff...
"The S.A.T. score of the average American high school student will soon be going up 100 points. However, that doesn't mean that anyone is getting smarter. Beginning in April 1995, the College Board, based in Manhattan, will be recalibrating its scoring of the Scholastic Assessment Test. The bottom score will still be 200 and the top 800, but it will be easier for everyone to get higher scores. "
From S.A.T</a>. Increases the Average Score, by Fiat - New York Times
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higher SATs also correlate with good gpa, rigorous courseload and strong ECs....why must it be the SAT score that made the difference. There are many people at columbia and other ivies with lower SAT scores but only a handful who are deficient in those other areas.
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Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that the SAT score median is at a certain level. I know plenty of top students with low SAT scores and their college options are less extensive. I repeat, SATs can't get you in, but they can keep you out. O and good job just making that up, since I am sure I mean positive that a good score on a standardized test means kids participate more in extracurricular activities in their communities...
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this is probably the stupidest thing that high school kids come around here saying all the time. The fact that the admissions rate is lower does NOT mean that its "harder" to get in.
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Actually it does. Its common knowledge now that its much harder to get into top colleges now then before. Penn maybe 20 years ago had an acceptance rate of nearly 50%, its 16.9% now. That may hurt your ego, but its a fact and the idea that you don't recognize the impact that a significantly lower selectivity has on admission standards makes me question either your pride or your intellect. </p>
<p>Simply put your information is not logical and is false, don't feel the need to respond unless you can do so substantively.</p>
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I'll make this easy. The posts by bescraze and caiacs are retarded.
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Name one thing that I said is false, since you can't how about you go back to finding a better screen name. My point is and has always been the same: SAT SCORES CAN't GET YOU IN SOMEWHERE, BUT THEY CERTAINLY CAN KEEP YOU OUT</p>
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The S.A.T. score of the average American high school student will soon be going up 100 points. However, that doesn't mean that anyone is getting smarter. Beginning in April 1995, the College Board, based in Manhattan, will be recalibrating its scoring of the Scholastic Assessment Test. The bottom score will still be 200 and the top 800, but it will be easier for everyone to get higher scores.
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<p>1995?!?! DUDE! how old do u think i am???!?!! </p>
<p>For me to have taken the SAT before 1995 I would have to be in my 30s! </p>
<p>For the record, in 1995 i was in elementary school!!</p>
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Simply put your information is not logical and is false, don't feel the need to respond unless you can do so substantively.
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<p>i can't wait to see YOUR response now....you SERIOUSLY thought i graduated over a decade ago??? SERIOUSLY??</p>
<p>my information is very current and very true....please understand that at 17 you do not know everything and that the advice and experience of RECENT graduates (who are the only alums on this board btw) is much more pertinent than whatever BS you're making up based on nothing </p>
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for what its worth:
740-Writing
730-Math
680-Critical Reading
700-World History
710-Math 1
And I'm sitting in Butler right now, should be working on my Lit Hum paper
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<p>seems as if you are angry, I would take a deep breath</p>
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seems as if you are angry, I would take a deep breath
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<p>no just shocked and very amused by you</p>
<p>....thanks for playing</p>