<p>No one even cares about Cornell lol…</p>
<p>it’s never mentioned anywhere anyway…Berkeley is almost always around top 5 in international rankings. who cares about being number 15 in usnews? that rankings so biased. At least berkeley is mentioned somewhere unlike Cornell, which is like…very very very low end of the ivy</p>
<p>Transfer students to Cal bring down Cal’s reputation. The transfer system to Cal or UCLA has to be fixed. Compared to other top schools, too many ■■■■■■■ get accepted to Cal from community college.</p>
<p>itt: Bagging on Cornell until lazykid declares conversation war.</p>
<p>33hours don’t be a hater 
rankings are always biased, and statements like “no one cares about Cornell” will only provoke hatred~
oh also, I think transfer students have nothing to do with the reputation of a school, I mean, all the average folks out there don’t even care about such things~</p>
<p>It’s the truth.
No one cares about Cornell…seriously.
rankings are always biased? USnews is always too much biased.
There were times when public schools used to be in top 10, and they changed all the next year because they put one criteria in to make private school to look better.</p>
<p>Even then, Cornell is bottom of the list. Berkeley is like right behind even at disadvantage.
I don’t really think nation as a whole would care about Cornell so much…going to Cornell, it isn’t a big deal anyway.</p>
<p>Transfer students…they really do lower the reputation. Oh right, Cornell has like 40% acceptance rate for transfers too. Forgot about that easy entrance to Cornell too. But again, who cares about Cornell?</p>
<p>“And, forget about just Cornell in the discussion. Seriously, if the cost is not a factor, most would choose ANY top privates over Berkeley, ESPECIALLY if that applicant is OOS. Berkeley is like 90% Californian. It is like 70% Asian (not being racist here) All I am saying is that it may not be very diverse.”</p>
<p>Yeah, Berkeley can’t help that. cuz it’s a public school.</p>
<p>“HAHAHAHA… I guess there are just more Berkeley ■■■■■■ on this forum trying to muster up every bit of last respect they can get, after getting rejected from ALL Ivies and all top private schools. Let’s face it. From Cali, if you were a truly gifted student, you would have better options than Cal to attend. (Duke, Georgetown, NU, all Ivies, Stanford, MIT, and the list goes on)”</p>
<p>Wait… wait… who’s the ■■■■■? and who’s insecure? </p>
<p>Stop being so elitist just because you chose to go to Cornell. You should stop this senseless and completely rude ranting before you completely demolish your school’s image. </p>
<p>I don’t know what you are talking about. Plenty of people have told you that Cornell and Berkeley are both very good schools. This is obviously about personal preferences. Why do you chose to not listen? Stop your patronizing; it’s so irritating. Seems like you are so bored at Cornell that your only source of amusement is picking a fight with people you don’t know on a college forum. </p>
<p>And for your information, people don’t always think Ivies are the best options. One of my suitemates rejected UPenn for Berkeley, and I myself rejected Princeton and UPenn for Berkeley. Yeah some of us at Berkeley do have “better” options, but our definition of better might defer from that of yours. Just accept that fact. Some of us don’t let this piece of crap called USNEWS and superficial brand names dictate our lives.</p>
<p>If you are not going to generate worthwhile discussion and are instead going to insult, generalize and just vomit crap all over the this forum just leave. If Berkeley is so beneath you, why are you even spending so much of your time here in this forum? This kind of elitism is exactly one of the reasons why I (and many others I’m sure) didn’t chose to go to the Ivies, especially the lower Ivies (they all seem so insecure about their school’s worth that they had to pull the name “Ivy” up everywhere) </p>
<p>I think Berkeley is a great school FOR ME. I can care less about the idiotic ranking system. FOR ME, Berkeley’s worth to me transcend any of those stupid numbers. I think Cornell is a good school too, but IN MY OPINION it’s not as good as Berkeley.</p>
<p>@33hours you should be the CC hater of the year
hopefully Stanford is not the reason why you hate private schools so much 
jkjk
and hey, Cornell is “half” a public school too so maybe Cornell should be higher up the list too lmao
and yea, I’m screwed for life… man my college is ranked FIFTEENTH! OMG 15th!
one last thing, how do transfer students lower the reputation of a school again? lol you know that only high schoolers compare schools by using acceptance rates/ SAT scores right? people out there simply don’t care~</p>
<p>lol and I agree with KitKatz, both schools are awesome, so hmm lets move on :)</p>
<p>^ actually if my mom let me, I would definitely apply to CA schools because of the weather lol</p>
<p>Name me one major from Cornell that they are known for other than hotel management. Berkeley tops your Cornell majors. And again, Transfer students from CC are meaningless to Univ.
Considering it’s called Ivy, 15th is pretty bad lol, and you guys seem to have some kind of pride for it, which i dont really get. Who brought up those useless rankings again?</p>
<p>"Name me one major from Cornell that they are known for other than hotel management. "
ok, hmm how about Agricultural Sciences? my point is not that Cornell>Berkeley, I just think that it’s pointless to bush a school for no reason… I would never bash Berkeley because I’m majoring in comp sci, and for me Berkeley/Stanford/MIT/CMU are simply godly schools
“considering it’s called Ivy, 15th is pretty bad lol”
righttt so we’re supposed to be the best school in the world because we are in a football league~
well for me, I’m proud because I’m going to Cornell, not because I’m going to an ivy league school~ though that’s me I don’t know about other people~</p>
<p>waitatshu, i only wrote stuff about Cornell because one ■■■■■■ above commented that Cornell is like a godly school. I mean, i heard the place looks nice even though it’s isolated. But personally, i dont see why people who go to Cornell except for that they are rejected by first choice school.</p>
<p>I didn’t ever bring up rankings until that one ■■■■■■ did. Even again, i don’t see why he brought it up because Berkeley wins in almost all international rankings. And again, USnews is skewed towards privates anyway.</p>
<p>Almost every major in Berkeley are in top 10 rankings in the US. It is so convincing that Berkeley is not even in top 10 overall in US according to USnews eh?</p>
<p>Guys, in the middle of all this, waitatshu has been a voice of reason; don’t antagonize him/her just to get at LazyKid.</p>
<p>Also @ LazyKid- The THES rankings you keep bringing up do indeed put Cornell over Berkeley, but also put Berkeley over WUSTL, Dartmouth, and Rice. You’ve already said that Dartmouth, at least, is at par with/better than Cornell. So, if, according to that ranking, Berkeley is better than Dartmouth, then you cannot legitimately use that publication as a point of argument in favor of Cornell. In fact, that just points out how worthless rankings even are.</p>
<p>Again, I have nothing against Cornell, I’m just pointing out a glaring fallacy.</p>
<p>“i dont see why people who go to Cornell except for that they are rejected by first choice school.”
but… that’s my first choice~</p>
<p>well lazykid is just… enthusiastic about his school lol
we all know the USNews ranking shouldn’t be used to compare schools, and at the end of the day, both Cornell and Berkeley grads will get mad respect from the average folks out there so who cares lol</p>
<p>“And again, Transfer students from CC are meaningless to Univ.” </p>
<p>@ 33hours: This is so ignorant. ^^ Sure, maybe you’ve met some “■■■■■■■” (as you call them) from CC that were accepted to Berkeley. I wouldn’t care; I know there are just as many, if not way more, brilliant transfers…and just as many more that will be there this fall :).</p>
<p>honestly emil, most of the transfers are not really as intelligent as freshmen admits. They end up doing okay academically because they only have to take upper div classes, which are pretty much always easier than lower div weeders.</p>
<p>transfer students, in general, are lower caliber to freshmen admits. this is because cc is ridiculously easy and anyone with a small amount of motivation can get into UCLA or Cal. Some consider getting a 4.0 at Cal a great accomplishment…on the other hand, CC GPA is not really indicative of a students caliber…So when the average transfer gpa is a 3.7…it really doesn’t mean too much.</p>
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<p>I’d be careful posting this, because it’s true in some majors, and utterly false in others like my own, where the difficulty goes up in huge chunks as one goes on in the game. </p>
<p>I generally also don’t think it’s useful to compare admitted students based on how hard their admissions process was, just because I don’t think much of getting into Berkeley anyway. The more salient point is that CCs may not be good preparation usually. Some CC teachers are insane, though, just because they have the time, and really make it challenging for the students.</p>
<p>But I do see your general point, which is that there’s a soft spot for transfers here.</p>
<p>^^ true, but it seems most transfers are usually humanities, which seems to have rampant grade inflation in the upper divs.</p>
<p>^^ Right, this is why I feel it’s a bit of a silly discussion to compare transfers to non-transfers; I’m sure plenty of humanities classes are filled by both kinds of students who didn’t have to have huge credentials. CC or high school, the caliber of program may be pretty low. Everything seemed to come down to major again.</p>
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<p>I am actually offended by this. Two of my cousins got admitted to Berkeley via this route. They bombed their high schools and got like 1800s on SATs, yet got into Berkeley as transfers from community colleges. They were the official 'jock’s of their high school. Playing on-line poker and smoking weed more than studying. One of my cousins, after getting into Berkeley, jokingly said to me that I should have just played poker, party all day, smoke weed, and chase after girls while in high school too, then go to community college, enjoy life, then get into UCLA or UC Berkeley or whatever. </p>
<p>Then, again, this clown RML thinks that only genius-types can be given the chance to study at Berkeley. Even students at Berkeley would think that this RML tool is insane. HAHAHAHAHA.</p>