<p>I'm just wondering if these are considered "big" (enough that you might get caught) lies in college admissions.</p>
<p>1st example: Saying you were the vice-president of your church youth group, when you were the secretary.</p>
<p>2nd example: Saying you volunteered 4 hours a week when you actually volunteered 2 hours a week.</p>
<p>3rd example: Saying you joined a club your junior year when you joined it your senior year.</p>
<p>Possibly but unlikely, no, and probably not.</p>
<p>But you shouldn’t lie.</p>
<p>Any lie should be considered a big lie in admissions. If the lie is discovered (through a call to your GC, in the interview, or by a schoolmmate ratting…) the consequences will be big as in a rejection.</p>
<p>If the lie is discovered later, the acceptance could be rescinded, a degree rescinded. (Read the fine print in the application.) </p>
<p>Do you want to start your adult life out with deception anyway?</p>
<p>sort of along the same lines. Can you but Girl Scouts Bronze Award on your application if you earned it in middle school.</p>
<p>But how would they find out about the clubs and church? It’s not like the college will contact my church. And clubs aren’t listed on my transcripts, are they? I don’t think they are …</p>
<p>lol, you know you’re a ****** when you’re considering making such minuscule lies to make up for your weaknesses in high school on your app</p>
<p>These lies aren’t big enough to justify taking any risks.</p>
<p>As for the Girl Scouts Bronze Award, if you earned it, you earned it. There’s no reason to lie about when. (If a boy managed to become an Eagle Scout while still in middle school, I would certainly urge him to put that on his college applications! I don’t know as much about Girl Scout ranks.)</p>
<p>This is easy. If you can lie about it and get away with it, it’s probably not going to change your application.</p>
<p>Just remember there may be other kids from your school who are applying to the same college. When you arrive there in September, do you want to worry about your old HS pal revealing the truth about your exaggerations to the adcoms? </p>
<p>You might be surprised how the adcoms talk to new and old kids from the same school, and about their activities.</p>
<p>And lying about your church group—yikes, you might want to worry about karma, or a bolt of lightening?</p>
<p>Don’t ever lie on your application. Ever. Sure, statistically the chances favor your not getting caught. But is your acceptance, your degree worth that risk?</p>
<p>What if in your interview, it goes like:</p>
<p>"Interviewer: I see you were the vice-president of your church youth group. Which denomination is that, if you don’t mind my asking?</p>
<p>You: Oh, the Church of the Nazarene.</p>
<p>Interviewer: You mean the one in Beverly?! My best friend is Peggy Adams, you know, Pastor Adams’s wife.</p>
<p>You: oh…cool…"</p>
<p>Sure it’s far-fetched but just do yourself a favor and don’t take the risk.</p>
<p>You are right, if you were to “lie a little bit,” say you volunteered 4 hours instead of 2, or was a vice president instead of secretary, it would be hard for them to catch you unless they were trying to verify everything. On the flip side, then why bother? Would it really make your application look that much better? I don’t think so. Many colleges want quality rather than quantity. Some schools only want you to list your top 3-4 ECs. They want to know what you actually did in a club rather than your title. It is always a bad karma to lie. At my kid’s school adcoms actually speak with school GC prior to making decision, often those GC know pretty well what kids have done in high school.</p>
<p>^Most colleges do not require an interview</p>
<p>No I am referring to college’s admission representative actually having discussion with our school’s college counselor to discuss each candidate.</p>
<p>^My post was directed to Dwight, not you.</p>
<p>I’d just feel plain old guilty doing so. Personally, I feel that it’s completely unfair to do when some people put in several hours of their time to an EC and other people get away with just making it up. The thought of that just makes me sick to my stomach.</p>
<p>Any lie is too much of a lie. In terms of college admissions, you should be totally honest. Always. Good Luck!</p>
<p>If you lie on your apps, the omnipotent gods of College Admissions Karma will come back and bite you. Bye bye, Harvard acceptance!</p>
<p>C’mon, don’t be pathetic enough to lie. Because seriously…that’s just…really pathetic. Those things you listed won’t even make a difference anyway.</p>
<p>I doubt that they would be considered “big”, but maybe big enough to get you rescinded if you get found out. Why in the world would anyone consider doing this is beyond me though.</p>
<p>Perhaps the OP has already done this and is looking for support or justification??</p>
<p>It’s not a question of “big” or “little” lies; you should not lie at all. It’s that simple. How likely it is that you might be caught lying is also irrelevant.</p>
<p>All college application forms have you sign a statement similar to this one on the Common App:</p>
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<p>How can you sign this and attest that the information is “factually true, and honestly presented” if it’s not?</p>