<p>Ok, we had an AP Euro test the other day and our AP Euro class is notorious for being near impossible, by the way I go to a private school so a lot the kids are already really smart. One of the classes took the test a little before our class and in the last minutes of studying I asked at least 3 of the kids who had taken the test for help. They told me they couldn't even help me study, they wouldn't tell me if it was hard (which it was, it was practically death), and there was even one person who told me it was easy and not even worth wasting my time to study for. Is this how some of the kids in pre med and med school are? are these kids the future "gunners"?</p>
<p>If there are 2 sessions for the same course with the same teacher – asking the kids who have already taken the test to help you study could be construed as at least borderline cheating by many Professors unless they are known to make completely different exams for the split classes.</p>
<p>Many times the teacher will tell the students NOT to discuss the test for later classes and if they were caught in anywhere near a gray area both of you could be in trouble. I don’t think that would constitute anything other than common self preservation. Even if everything was innocent, it would be very difficult to prove that something didn’t get passed along (even subconsciously) assuming you didn’t have some sort of TA/Adult supervisor. </p>
<p>Not answering the question of whether the test was hard or not seems a bit much and the person who said it was easy either aced it and his/her mind it was easy, flunked the hell out of it b/c they were completely clueless, or was just being as ass and might be considered for a future as a B17 Ball Turret Gunner.</p>
<p>In medical school, you will be competing against highly intelligent and motivated students so it will be difficult to get high grades (I’m not talking about the high school definition of ‘smart’ I’m talking about kids who went to Yale, Harvard, etc. and still had a 3.8+ GPA at top colleges). </p>
<p>However, this sort of overt cutthroat environment is largely missing, at least at my school. Everyone tries to do their best but not at the expense of other students. I just finished a short 2-week rotation in the Pulmonology department and immediately wrote a lengthy email for the next student who will be rotating through there with tips on how to do well and what topics to read up on. On many occasions, my classmates have sent out their own study guides or good websites they found to the rest of the class in order to help their classmates study.</p>
<p>haha, well this is a high school class so we don’t have TAs and also there are plenty of classes where people talk about the tests, some even give answers, but I was just asking for help. Also one of the kids I asked told me that if they help me study and I do worse the curve on the test will be larger.</p>
<p>The good news is that by the time you get to Med School those type of “In it for Myself” types tend to fade away pretty fast – sort of like Prisoners of War who realize they’ve all been taken by force by Himmler and it’s time to band together or else. There will be a few of those borderline personalities in College who try to sabotage the competition though in the end many of those folks end up hurting themselves since rarely do those types escape the attention of someone. </p>
<p>Right now though ANY remote appearance of impropriety needs to be avoided whether it favors you or someone else. Study together before the test, share notes, do group projects, but once someone has taken a test then it’s time to clam up not because of grades, but to be fair to everyone taking the same class UNLESS the professor has said it’s OK to talk. I don’t know, maybe he makes 2 completely different tests but I doubt it and in the long run you aren’t hurting anyone but yourself in the end. Honors Code violations (or accustations) will get you blacklisted from colleges faster than anything other than a felony conviction.</p>
<p>If there really are backstabbers and malicious students are out there the best way to eliminate the competition is to report cheating and you really don’t even have to prove it in the end. .</p>
<p>Not wanting to help a student with an old class is not gunner activity. There are many reasons why they might not want to help you.
- The don’t remember the exam anymore.
- They didn’t do as well as they wanted and are embarrassed to talk about it.
- The way you are asking is putting them off.</p>
<p>lmao. YES THEY ARE THE GUNNERS!!!</p>
<p>we really don’t know. with that little bit of detail what do u expect from CC? we are not mind readers. anyways um from what u described yes they are but average people also get in. dont worry and relax</p>