<p>Are Native Americans/Blacks/Hispanics benefited in the early rounds (i.e. Yale SCEA, other Ivies ED, etc.) or do they stand the same chance they would stand in the regular round?</p>
<p>I have seen no evidence that they are benefited more during EA/ED than they are during RD.</p>
<p>Probably not. Given that the colleges you’ve mentioned also expend lots of money and energy on recruiting applicants from under-served populations (which typically do not engage in EA/ED application), an argument could even be made that perhaps more early slots remain unfilled in the un-official quota for URMs in order to really cull the RD pool of applicants.</p>
<p>Absolutely. Top schools fight for top URMs, if they can grab one early they’re happy to.</p>
<p>D’oh! Now I completely agree with redroses. I hadn’t thought of it in that manner. Plz ignore my earlier post.</p>
<p>I agree that colleges want URMs early, BUT as Rr states, only ‘top URMs’.</p>
<p>URM don’t get any boost at MIT, right?</p>
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<p>No, MIT practices Affirmative Action.</p>
<p>Are there any top schools that don’t practice AA?</p>
<p>@GreedIsGood, excluding Stanford, all the ones in California do not practice AA I think.</p>
<p>UC Berkeley and UCLA don’t practice AA.</p>
<p>I bet Notre Dame doesn’t either.</p>
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<p>Caltech comes to mind, as well as the UC’s.</p>
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<p>No, the public universities in CA don’t practice AA. There are many private schools that do.</p>
<p>Caltech definitely practices AA, one of the reasons Ill probably get in :D</p>
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<p>How do you know? While I do not have proof that Caltech does not practice AA, I have heard it from several students there, and that claim is consistent with Caltech’s extremely low enrollment of African American students.</p>
<p>AA is stupid. Diversity in the eyes of top schools is having black, Hispanic, Native Americans, and those “grubby” Asians they don’t seem to really want but admittedly are widely qualified to get in. </p>
<p>First of all, AA doesn’t directly benefit black people who have had a struggled past. Nope. There are black people from all parts of the country who haven’t been descendants of slaves or have lived luxurious lives at prep schools. These people aren’t in need of this type of societal support. However, there are some in the “ghettoes,” but their socioeconomic status barely differs from that of a lower-class white person. And yet the lower-class white person receives no benefit in applying to college.</p>
<p>Secondly, this so-called “diversity” is a load of crap in my opinion. It’s a statistic and nothing more. You want fourth-generation hispanics/blacks to contribute their “cultural, diverse” ideas to “enrich” the campus? Please. They’re just as Americanized as the next John Smith and the only thing separating the two is one has darker skin. Notice how I’m talking about Americanized minorities, not ones who are immigrants or foreign students. Instead of advocating the admission of foreign students, they actually prevent the less well-off ones from attending (No guaranteed FA for international applicants). HOWEVER, it is these applicants who truly add diversity to the campus, who share a wealth of ideas, and want to attend school in America so badly that they choose to leave their families behind. The college system in America is disgusting. It attempts to be holistic but at the same time it excludes many deserving candidates and endorses hypocritical policies. And don’t even get me started on the public school system. There is no education provided by those schools… read the book, memorize, ace the multiple-choice test, get a 4.0, and compete. There’s no thought, analysis, reasoning, questioning, reflection, discussion, or anything of merit that demonstrates they have actually learned anything. America needs academic maturity in many, many ways.</p>
<p>Yes, my post is rather cynical. But, on the contrary, I am in a good mood!</p>
<p>I believe the lawsuits and Prop 209 in CA referred to “quotas.” Isn’t there still space onthe common app to indicate racial/ethnic identity?</p>
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<p>Oh, spare us, there are a million people with the same opinion as you and none of you are going to accomplish anything by whining on CC.</p>
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<p>ND practices AA to a huge extent because it is a predominantly white, Catholic school looking to add diversity all the time.</p>
<p>I believe in 2000, their admit rate for blacks applying early decision was 75%</p>
<p>^ Where would you even get a statistic like that? Not published…</p>
<p>this is going to turn into another AA thread…</p>