The Superior URM

<p>Do private schools that give URM's acknowledgement hold certain URMs over other's? Is that acknowledgement weakened by being a half & half? I'm half black and half american indian, does that make me better or worse than a full black or full american indian? Thanks</p>

<p>Is there a superior URM to be?</p>

<p>MaximumConcentration,</p>

<p>As I have never heard of a school trying to increase its enrollment of half black/half native american students, I believe you are at a disadvantage when compared to your full blooded counterparts. You should cuss out your mother and father for not consumating their relationship with one of their own! lol. In any case, I do believe most private schools have an unwritten acknolwedgement of what URMs are more superior than others. Basically, I think it comes depends on whose least represented in colleges. Here is my list:</p>

<ol>
<li>Any group that does not even have a box on applications (like rare tribes. eskimos or gypsies like me!)</li>
<li>Hispanics</li>
<li>Pacific Islanders and the like</li>
<li>Blacks (they get bumped down because of OJ!)</li>
<li>Jews</li>
</ol>

<p>the preference schools have for particular URMs.</p>

<p>I could be wrong...but I've never seen a place on an application to put your religious affiliation down. I'm unsure that "Jews" get an advantage in the application process except in possibly a faith-based university.</p>

<p>Documented registered(tribal affiliation) native americans living on the reservation are probably the least represented group on college campuses and have the biggest tip factor regarding URM admissions.</p>

<p>this is then followed by:</p>

<p>African Americans (larger tips going to AA with roots in the u.s. over AA who are children or recent carribean or african immigrants)</p>

<p>Hispanics (with larger tips going to students of puerto rician and mexican descent)</p>

<p>all other hispanics.</p>

<p>Even then it is more than merely "face" value as everything is taken into consideration, a poor first generation URM who works to help support his family and attains a 1250 would probably have a better tip over a wealthy prep school URM (non legacy or non-recruited) with a 1350 because the student with the lower score has done made more of the opportunities which s/he has been given.</p>

<p>ophiolite is correct in stating that being jewish is not a tip factor in ivy admissions.</p>

<p>where would you put Fillipinos and Pacific Islanders in that list, sybbie719?</p>

<p>pacific islanders are usually included in the asian population (which is are over represented minorities at some schools)</p>

<p>Interesting, sybbie719...</p>

<p>My Undergraduate English Advisor told me that Fillipinos and Pacific Islanders are considered apart from their asian counterparts. In fact, she said that top tier schools in the south (Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice) consider Fillipinos on the same plane as Hispanics, Blacks or Native Americans because Fillipinos are traditionally underrepresented at such universities.</p>

<p>Does anyone know if this is true?</p>

<p>Yes, I did the BRIDGE research program at UCLA which is a research summer program that allows URMs get in the lab and do work. I qualified, being Filipino. Filipinos are totally URMs at UCLA and UCB and half of the admitted Filipinos drop out of UCLA.</p>

<p>In that case, it is quite reassuring to know that the failure of my people to suceed in college...leads to my benefit.</p>

<p>J/P</p>

<p>I believe that Jewish people are perfectly well represented at almost all colleges, so I doubt there's much of an admissions boost for it.</p>

<p>how are applicants that are half hispanic or half african american looked out...for example being hispanic but not speaking spanish at home and struggling at school...does it still benefit you? are you looked at as the same as if you were completely hispanic? does the economic status of your hometown matter?</p>

<p>In the case of UC admissions--your hometown matters, but none of the other stuff you mentioned.</p>

<p>In what way does hometown matter?</p>

<ol>
<li>Location of the applicant's secondary school and residence. These factors shall be considered in order to provide for geographic diversity in the student population and also to account for the wide variety of educational environments existing in California.</li>
</ol>

<p>I'm not sure if this plays any factor in transfer admissions. It does according to the document I'm citing, but it's old and some stuff has changed in the "comprehensive review" process since then.</p>

<p>(<a href="http://www.ucop.edu/sas/adguides.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ucop.edu/sas/adguides.html&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p>

<p>Interesting stuff.</p>

<p>This thread should be a featured discussion.</p>

<p>How does that happen anyway?</p>

<p>And there has been controversy in the past over that criterion.</p>

<p>Interesting...Hmmm....</p>

<p>Sorry, I want my post count to go up. hah.</p>

<p>Is there such thing as an ORM (over-represented minority)? </p>

<p>LIKE JEWS ANDS WHITES!!!</p>