<p>"he who is without sin shall cast the first stone"</p>
<p>Yeah, and thats why Jesus' legacy is still causing everyone problems...</p>
<p>That's the one thing I don't like about Christianity, it's very contradictory telling us to accept people and all that, but spaking out against homosexuals...Also I do believe people decide to be homosexuals, they have the choice...we have bisexuals too..the environment influences them, but they are definitely not born gay, they have some decision in it, although there are strong influences..</p>
<p>And now something I know will get flamed...but w/e:</p>
<p>Gay people should not be allowed to adopt BECAUSE that kind of behavior should not influence a blank slate (the child). Not that it's bad, but I don't think it's good for little children to be around...they need to learn specific lessons from a male figure and a female figure. Plus, could you imagine when the 1st grader tells his teacher he has 2 daddies how the other kids would react. Homo couples should be allowed to adopt only kids like 15 or 16 or older or something I think.</p>
<p>I disagree very strongly but I'm too tired to go into it tonight.</p>
<p>i dont think ppl actually can choose whether to be gay or not. if that was the case, no one would be, with all the anti-gay feeling. but its their choice to come out of the closet or not.</p>
<p>I agree with Madd.....but that statement, which you recognized will get flamed, basically contradicts what you said about Christianity.
People do not choose to be gay. One of my friends did an EXTENSIVE paper on the subject, starting with no bias whatsoever, and came to the conclusion, as did everyone she interviewed, read about, etc. that homosexuality is not a choice.
Gay parents can be good parents just as any straight parents can be. There is no tangible proof otherwise, only a lasting social stigma that is still being circulated. What about abusive heterosexual parents, or parents with a family history of alcoholism - should they be sterilized to prevent spreading any bad vibes to the children?
I don't want to go into any more detail. I just had to say my views on what you said, sittingbull.</p>
<p>Well, I can't argue besides saying I disagree and think it is an environment thing, not a birth thing.</p>
<p>If you ask me, yes, bad heteros should be sterilized..they are reproducing kids they can't handle.</p>
<p>sittingbull, that is f-cking bullsh-t, i mean your adoption statement.</p>
<p>but, if homosexuality is environmental, then could you enlighten me as to what type of environment produces a gay person.</p>
<p>I agree that there are specific important lessons that girls should learn from women and boys from men, but I also believe that role models of the same sex can be, and many times are, found outside of the home.</p>
<p>sittingbull - let's not go back to the buck vs. bell days.
why would anyone choose to be something that causes them to become outcasts in such a prejudiced society? yeah, I'm sure all those gays wanted to get disowned by their parents, too, because it was a "choice". no one would choose the life of hell that ignorance has made for homosexuals.</p>
<p>I love that.. Everyone tells sittingbull that it's bull, we need a new comeback.</p>
<p>Living in an environment with little of one gender's influence no father (or no mother whichever) could have a greater chance of yielding a homosexual.</p>
<p>Also living in as a child in a community with many gay people.</p>
<p>Okay then guys, killers and child molesters have no choice either and shouldn't be prejudiced against..</p>
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Living in an environment with little of one gender's influence no father (or no mother whichever) could have a greater chance of yielding a homosexual.</p>
<p>Also living in as a child in a community with many gay people.
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what the f-ck. if that is the case, then why isn't homosexuality more common within the African-American community. We are notorious for having a large population of single-parent homes. However, black homosexuality is NOT commonplace.
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Okay then guys, killers and child molesters have no choice either and shouldn't be prejudiced against.
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but killing and child molestation are illegal. homosexuality is not.</p>
<p>Homosexuality is not a choice. </p>
<p>"Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?</p>
<p>No, human beings can not choose to be either gay or straight. Sexual orientation emerges for most people in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed. </p>
<p>Can Therapy Change Sexual Orientation?</p>
<p>No. Even though most homosexuals live successful, happy lives, some homosexual or bisexual people may seek to change their sexual orientation through therapy, sometimes pressured by the influence of family members or religious groups to try and do so. The reality is that homosexuality is not an illness. It does not require treatment and is not changeable." </p>
<p>--American Psychiatric Association
<a href="http://www.apa.org/topics/sbehaviorsub1.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.apa.org/topics/sbehaviorsub1.html</a></p>
<p>Yeah sittingbull is actually right. My parents went to a conference in DC last weekend and the topic was HIV/STDs and it's in some reference paper that Homosexuals can be influenced by their environment. I didn't believe it either, until my mother told me, and she basically told me that they're influenced when like in a group of males, 1 comes out, and the others might be influenced too, especially if he is a leader. I know I know, it seems a little far-fetched, but this is actually published somewhere . . . . but I don't think that's the ONLY way people become gay though. It could be innate or a "choice" . . . . but the environment hypthothesis can't entirely be ruled out.</p>
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you can get stuff published anywhere. either way, it can't be proven that homosexuality is environmental. That being said, no one can prove that homosexuality is genetic either.</p>
<p>WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOMOSEXUALS????
sittingbull, you keep talking as if it's a terrible thing: "oh god forbid a gay father raises a child! what if he turns out to be gay too??"
who cares? people are people are people are people. you are no better than anyone else. heterosexuals are not better or more desirable than homosexuals. IT DOESN'T MATTER.</p>
<p>Yeah but it's a medical paper, listen I'll ask her tomorrow and I'll see if she can find it.</p>
<p>a medical theory - not fact.
no one can prove it either way, but there is overwhelming evidence on the genetic side.</p>
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medical papers can be published anywhere too.</p>
<p>I have no hate for the gay people honestly BUT--I don't like the child thing. If the father influences him to be gay, then he has to be destined for hell because of how he was raised.</p>