<p>A coach visiting you at home doesn’t count as an official visit. Officials are limited to 5 regardless of the sport. (Officials can’t be made until after the 1st day of class senior year)</p>
<p>Great, thanks varska. For some reason, I thought that it was only four.</p>
<p>Sorry new to this what are the ruling on recruiting at camps… can coaches talk to you then or do they have to wait until event is over (rising senior).DI, DII, DIII</p>
<p>I’m not sure if this is an NCAA rule, but for my daughter’s sport (DI), coaches must release the athletes from camp or competition before they can speak to coaches.</p>
<p>Yes, that is an NCAA rule however it is frequently disregarded. In theory, the event must be over for the coaches to put their recruiting hat on, or to speak to your son/daughter about recruiting. I grabbed this passage from another website that details the ruling:</p>
<p>“13.1.7.2 Practice or Competition Site. Recruiting contact may not be made with a prospective student-athlete prior to any athletics competition in which the prospective student-athlete is a participant during the day or days of competition, even if the prospective student-athlete is on an official or unofficial visit. Contact includes the passing of notes or verbally relaying information to a prospective student-athlete by a third party on behalf of an institutional staff member and telephone calls. Such contact shall be governed by the following: …”</p>
<p>Here’s the important one for players:
“13.1.7.2.1 Effect of Violation. Violations of this bylaw shall be considered institutional violations per Constitution 2.8.1; however, such violations shall not affect the prospective student-athlete’s eligibility.”</p>
<p>Some NCAA rules are nearly universally ignored, and this is one of them. A player can’t get into trouble over this, and practically speaking neither will a coach.</p>
<p>thank you fishymom and fenwaysouth for your answers.</p>
<p>Just wanted to mention that if Stanford is on any of your children’s lists, just know that at least for my D’s sport, their timetable for official visits is later than that of the Ivies. One reason may be their calendar/late start, I’m not sure. Anyway, D had accepted officials at 4 Ivies for the fall, but before she accepted that 5th offer, she first contacted Stanford to feel them out about how seriously they were interested in her and whether an offer of an official visit would be forthcoming. Other kids she knows also took some visits to schools in the western US later on (also Texas), such as in Jan., Feb., and March of senior year. So if there’s a school that’s not in the northeast that the student is very interested in, but has not yet received an OV offer from, you might want make a call and keep open one visit just in case.</p>
<p>How/when is the deal sealed?</p>
<p>For DI scholarship schools, the deal is sealed, for all intents and purposes, with the signing of the National Letter of Intent. Unless something out of the ordinary happens between signing and acceptance, a NLOI is pretty much rock solid. When the deal is sealed is dependant on the sport as signing periods are different for each sport. For Ivy League schools, I personally would not feel that the deal was sealed until I had a Likely Letter in my possesion.</p>
<p>Fishymom,
Thank you for the reply. I sent you a pm. A better question may have been: What is a commitment? Is it only a one way thing (student to school) or is it reciprocal…school also commits to the student?</p>
<p>^^^Regarding Stanford, this may indeed be sports specific. The OV dates offered in my daughter’s sport are right in line with the OV dates offered by Ivies. OV invitations have been made, so on the same timetable as the Ivies there too. </p>
<p>Braincramp - to me a valid commitment is a reciprocal one - the strong intention of one party means nothing all by itself.</p>
<p>Mayhew,
Thanks and agreed.
So, when a student is asked to commit by the school, then the assumption is the commitment is reciprocal…knowing that either may back out at any time?
Many of D’s peers have long since committed verbally to their schools (mostly ACC and Big East). We saw this last year too, and all worked out. Ivy took the longest and we have no experience in our D’s League - Patriot but, the Patriot was patterned after Ivy.</p>
<p>I heard from a parent that may students competing at a national level right now–already have OVs lined up for fall…
and know that back in May-ish–hot shots at our hs had some Ovs liuned up (both genders, various sports)</p>
<p>In our house–our student has heard talk of visiting in the late summer/fall from coaches - and we know that all info has gone to AdCom for pre-reads…
no details as of yet.</p>
<p>My daughter had her first college visit today that included a meeting with a coach, who invited her back in the fall for an overnight, to attend a practice, classes, etc. Although this is a DIII school, the coach referred to it as an “official visit,” saying they would be paying for her meals, etc.</p>
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<p>We were asked for a commitment by a coach, which DS gave, then the coach basically disappeared. Not accepted by the school in the end although academically well qualified for the school. Unless there is a LOI or Likely Letter, I would keep a healthy dose of skepticism in stock. Schools vary and this was a school not known for athleticism, so we were surprised when the coach asked for a commitment in the first place.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, just going through the mental process of deciding to ‘commit’ made DS rather attached to the school, which made the ultimate rejection that much harder.</p>
<p>Coach of one of kiddos top schools said that they should hear something from admissions pre read tom…
praying all is well so the OV comes</p>
<p>how long does the preread usually take?</p>
<p>depends on the school… I’ve had some take a week and a half, some take two, three days. But it is summer, so a lot of officers are on vacation… you need to wait for the right one (contact for your sport) to come back and get to work.</p>
<p>thanks … I guess patience is key throughout this process!</p>
<p>Kiddo has been offered officials at two of the schools at the top of “the list”
…the pre-read at one got a green light so that is very exciting…
and two others on the list have also said they’d like kiddo to visit in the fall…</p>