Art School admission 2017

@lsichitiu , I would contact the financial services department at SAIC and inquire about additional scholarship moneys for the Scholastic award your D received. In my experience, they are very responsive and should get back to you in a timely manner. In our own experience, we did not accept until after we received all scholarship notifications.

I don’t think you need to worry about campus housing - they seem to have enough. But you might want to get a jump on enrollment (as soon as you hear back from financial services), because popular freshmen seminars tend to fill quickly. My own D enrolled sometime very late April, and she did not get her first pick of freshmen seminars, but her classes turned out interesting nonetheless.

@lsichitiu Yes, I totally understand. Just keep in mind that there is a possibility that once you give a deposit they may not award any more money. You have to personally decide if the loss of that money is justified by the risk of her potentially losing out on housing. Personally, I’d call housing to see if that risk is real–and I’d also speak again to financial aid and ask about the scholarship–reiterating that SAIC is her top choice, but you are still concerned with cost and that this additional money would help.

But sometimes we as parents do have to make decisions that will cost us potential money. I allowed D to apply to NYU for studio art ED. I knew by applying ED we would not be eligible for any merit aid. But I felt that ED might give D a bump for admission and she was a 1000% sure that she wanted to attend. So I’ll never know what would have happened as a RD applicant and how much money she may have been awarded. But I knew I would have a super miserable kid if she got rejected, so I went for it. (And I’m pretty certain in retrospect that she wouldn’t have been rejected because she was asked to join Steinhardt’s scholars program. Oh well!)

This is Ringling’s program philosophy from Jim McCampbell who is head of CA at Ringling. It was written in 2007 on a forum and while the program has evolved over the years (Ringling is very responsive to the industry), the philosophy remains the same as when my D attended.
I’m posting this because the philosophies about what is taught and why is very different between schools. I’m hoping that such a good explanation of “what we do and why we do it” will help in your decision making if you are considering Ringling. Remember that Ringling’s motto is “shattering the myth of the starving artist”.

"Ringling’s CA program teaches you to be a complete filmmaker. Although the main focus is on character animation and storytelling, we feel it is in your best interest as an artist to go beyond the restrictions of just character animation.

Look at it this way. There are almost 500 different schools out there teaching computer animation. Almost every student in almost every school wants to go work as an animator at Pixar, Dreamworks, Imageworks, etc. But the truth of the matter is that there are only a handful of studios with a production pipeline that allow you to do just character animation and nothing else. And, of that handful of studios, each has only a handful of entry-level jobs for character animators each year. The result is thousands of people applying for about 40 jobs. Those are not good odds.

By teaching you a larger skillset, we increase your odds of finding gainful employment upon graduation. Unless you are talented enough and fortunate enough to earn one of those cherished few spots, you will need to be able to cover a larger set of responsibilities in your work. There will be nobody to build and rig that character for you, nobody to light and texture it… in fact, there is a good chance you will be designing the character yourself (which I personally would view as a privilege).

So, here we focus heavily on character animation, but you learn to do it all. After all, it is a BFA degree. I can’t tell you how many times I have seen people who entered the program thinking they wanted to be a character animator, only to discover that they loved lighting… or modeling even more.

We place a significant number of graduates in the “big” studios each year. Their well-rounded educations make them better at what they do than they would have been without it. Being complete filmmakers also increases their odds of becoming supervisors and directors someday. And for those grads who aren’t quite Dreamworks material yet, it is good to know that because they are able to work across the entire production pipeline, they still have a fantastic chance of getting a good job at a studio where they will have a larger set of responsibilities.

Think about it… thousands of people competing for a handful of jobs… every one of them believing that they are one of the ones who will be chosen. Someone is going to be left without a chair when the music stops. I believe Ringling is taking the right approach, and the track record is there to support that belief."–Jim McCampbell (2007)

I received my Emily Carr acceptance yesterday, in case anyone is waiting on Canadian schools. :slight_smile:

RISD hasn’t notified admitted students of financial aid/merit scholarships yet, right? I looked over my portal and can’t find info in that regard. I heard that a letter should come in the mail in the next week, but I wanted to make sure packages haven’t be disclosed just yet.

Just got the Pratt acceptance yesterday. Letter dated march 13 but not postmarked until 3/24 (?) in case anyone out west hadn’t heard yet

@sunnydo165 RISD Packages (which will contain financial aid/merit scholarships) are being ‘snail’ mailed tomorrow. So depending on where you live I would think you’d get it by/during the weekend.

My D is leaning towards SVA. Why was someone worried that they would lose their spot if they delayed enrolling? I thought we had until May 1 to enroll without a problem.

that was @neapmom - probably in reference to housing (?) if you have to be enrolled to get in the queue.

Thanks for the insight.

@gabbyalex I called about that, and I was told my D would have a spot in housing… just not her first choice as long as enrollment was paid by May 1. We will probably drop the check during our visit next week! Trying to decided between Pratt, SVA, SAIC and SCAD. #1 SVA and close #2 is Pratt, and SCAD and SAIC and after that. LCAD is not on the list anymore… too far, not enough money. SCAD has increased scholarship offer again… trying not to think about it too hard, but it’s sure making the heat and sweat tea sound better LOL

My daughter said it was hot in Savannah today.

@moonpie are you visiting both SVA and Pratt back-to-back?

update-- daughter got in to cooper! She was deferred there ED in February. Crushing. She’s been warming to cal arts and RISD, so breaking up with them will be a little sad–but so far we have received no $ from either. We don’t qualify for need based aid (probably just barely!) so I am really happy about the slightly lower cost. She is excited about NYC. I expect it to be much colder!

@moonpie Thanks so much for the information! I had been worried about housing.

@moonpie Congrats! You mentioned “SCAD has increased the scholarship offer again …”. Did you have to negotiate or bargain with them? Thanks.

@nmmomma congrats on Cooper. The school is very close to my apartment. It’s a safe area for her to be in school and love. Lots to do in the Village area (both east and west). She will be so close to so many art galleries if she likes to visit them. My daughter won’t be applying to cooper since they don’t offer animation as a major. I would have loved her to attend since the tuition is a lot cheaper than most privates.

@AskExperts no… it was a surprise again!!! But they also said it will go up by $1500 more per year once we get her confirmation of HOPE scholarship. I think because of her GPA, maybe she’s rising to the top as others drop out? @JBStillFlying she’s doing admitted student’s day at SVA on Saturday, and then visiting Pratt again Monday. They are going to meet with her, try and get some students to talk to her, and help her figure it out! I feel stressed but excited at the same time! She’s keeping her mind open, but leaning heavily towards SVA. I wish she could go to Pratt’s admitted students day, but it’s the same day! I did email SVA about additional scholarship… but no reply yet LOL.

@moonpie thanks for reply. good luck!

RISD FA arrived and it is pretty stingy. I hate how they make it sound like a Federal loan is doing you a favor. Oh well.

@Jazzbutcher if you don’t mind my asking, what % of tuition (not including housing) did the aid cover? yes, I’ve noticed several colleges making it sound like the loan option is special.