<p>Some schools do work hard to make study abroad options available to everyone.</p>
<p>[SAFE</a> Program | Off-Campus Study | Bates College](<a href=“http://www.bates.edu/offcampus/before/financial-aid/endowment-details/safe-program/]SAFE”>http://www.bates.edu/offcampus/before/financial-aid/endowment-details/safe-program/)</p>
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<p>This is complete BS. My kid is NOT more entitled to campus jobs than poor kids, and I did not, in any way, shape or form make that suggestion. You are just lying now.</p>
<p>There was “whining” (inasmuch as any poor kids were whining) about good on campus jobs being unavailable to full pay kids.</p>
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<p>*My full-pay D was disappointed to find that the high-paying ($11 per hour) campus jobs were available only to those on work-study. She wanted one of those jobs. *</p>
<p>Well, great. You can interpret it as “whining” and I could care less. I didn’t accuse anyone of whining on this thread.</p>
<p>"<em>should be</em>, not <em>are</em>. "</p>
<p>Poetgrl already suggested people write to schools they are affiliated with if they are not.</p>
<p>So the question now on the table is which schools already do and which schools should be written to.</p>
<p>I thought the question was: would you invite the landfill attendant to a dinner party, or does she only exist as a punctuation point on a funny story about being mistaken for a landfill attendant? And would it make a difference if her son was a freshman at Harvard?</p>
<p>In other words, out there in the real world, how many of us see the landfill attendant as a real person of worth, who might become a friend? Or is she a sort of invisible person? And how does our perception change if she has a child at Harvard?</p>
<p>Michigan’s student football tickets were $280 this year for 7 games. Michigan meets full need to IS students and has something like the 7th largest endowment in the country. </p>
<p>I agree that events should be free for all students.</p>
<p>This thread is so bizarre. NO ONE on this thread said poor students should be “constantly grateful.” NO ONE. But people go on and on about this mysterious horrible person who insists that someone, or a lot of people said that. It is so weird. Get a grip people. The reality is that the majority of kids at these schools like each other and have a fun, educational, wonderful time, because the richest colleges in America treat their students like princes and princesses. All of them.</p>
<p>Mountaingoat’s not a landfill attendant, but she is an hourly wage earner with a kid at Harvard.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1585367-article-challenge-being-poor-americas-richest-colleges-16.html#post16650668[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1585367-article-challenge-being-poor-americas-richest-colleges-16.html#post16650668</a></p>
<p>It is amazing how many parents of fullride kids from Harvard post on CC.</p>
<p>Ai-yaaa! Better full-ride than full-pay, methinks!!</p>
<p>Sent from my ADR6410LVW using CC</p>
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<p>Maybe not in so many words, but you did say all this…
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Why? My kids do not like to watch sports, do not use the school gym, or go to many concerts. Why should I be forced to pay for those things they do not use? I would prefer if school would let students choose what they want to do and keep the COA low. It is a bit of entitlement attitude to believe it is a right to attend sporting events. I am a working adult, I certainly do not feel I should be entitled to go to all sporting events at the Madison Square Garden or every concert or Broadway show.</p>
<p>After visiting HYPSC as a recruited athlete, D consciously chose the school she felt was most egalitarian in the social atmosphere. Granted, that was not the only factor in her decision, but she definitely felt she might be bothered by the eating club scene at Princeton, and the need for lots of cash at Columbia for city life. Also, we were concerned about her having to pay for training camp and sports-related medical bills not covered by insurance, and that has all been completely covered by her school with no fund-raising obligations–thank God, because those MRI’s they love to order are pricey. From what I’ve heard, the sports funding situation is NOT that way elsewhere. Also, I wasn’t aware football costs so much at other schools. D goes to almost all the games, so that’s another advantage of her school. </p>
<p>So yes, she is living the good life in a beautiful place with beautiful people. She eats much better than we do too, with lots of fresh fruits and vegetables (organic, no doubt), and the occasional steak and lobster as well. Bay is right about the fact that the elite schools treat their students very well. D’s school has been fantastic, actually, and the benefits of the place far outweigh any issues with income disparity. We would make the same decision all over again without any hesitation.</p>
<p>That said, as I commented up-thread, an elite school may not be a good fit for a student with less confidence and lower self-esteem and no spending money.</p>
<p>Bay, I meant to say “you and ProudPatriot” in response to your “NO ONE.”</p>
<p>I’m done with this, and you. My apologies to everyone else.</p>
<p>I think Sally got Bay confused with Proudpatriot. Bay is right that she can’t lump all of those paragraphs together and attribute them to Bay.</p>
<p>Thanks, oldfort. I tried to correct it but the editing window was closed.</p>
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<p>You know everyone, no matter how rich they are, has experiences where someone else is doing something that they cannot afford. This is not something unique to the very poor.</p>
<p>When I was in college there were many students who went on expensive spring break trips. I could not afford such a luxury. My mother was a teacher, my father a tool and die maker. We were NOT poor BUT expensive spring break trips were not in the budget. EVER. I graduated in 1987, right smack in the middle of an era of conspicuous consumption.</p>
<p>When did it become some sort of national tragedy that there are people who can’t afford stuff? A ski trip is not an entitlement.</p>
<p>I think Weezer analyzed this situation and the feelings it may engender a few years back. I have nothing to add to their commentary, and, unlike the rest of this thread, it at least has a catchy hook. </p>
<p>[“Beverly</a> Hills” Official Music Video - Weezer - Weezer](<a href=“http://weezer.com/video/beverly-hills-official-music]"Beverly”>http://weezer.com/video/beverly-hills-official-music)</p>
<p>(Note: Weezer’s lead singer, Rivers Cuomo, is a Harvard grad.)</p>
<p>I have to agree that that quote was one of the more patronizing ones on this thread. Even when I could afford it, I did not like going on ski trips with my friends. So I didn’t go and was not sad at all.</p>