<p>No you’re not:)</p>
<p>However, nothing can be proven aside from thought itself. Not even facts and our own existence can be proven definitively. It’s solely our perception.</p>
<p>Well, I’m a former Christian, just kind of fell out of it and have recently begun to look back into it. I’m just not strong in my faith…</p>
<p>Warts, are you saying that you’re a Christian? :D</p>
<p>That is what I’m saying:)</p>
<p>Yay for Warts! </p>
<p>And I completely agree. You cannot prove or disprove the existence of a deity. That’s why there are tons of religions, and that’s why it takes faith to believe in a particular religion.</p>
<p>I believe that pretty much all religions are good. They all strive to be morally good. (Obviously this doesn’t include churches like Westboro Baptist)</p>
<p>You should have posted on the God debate thread haha</p>
<p>I’m bored so I’m posting in every thread.</p>
<p>Frankly, religion scares me. It seems like it all depends on what kind of circumstances you’re born into. If the Christians are right in their beliefs, what happens to all the children born in, say, Afghanistan, where they are conditioned by their environment to be Islamic? To them, they’re right, and Christians and Jews and everyone else are wrong. So what, they just burn in Hell? That doesn’t sound very fair to me. Same if it was the other way around. Is religion just not supposed to be fair? I’ve always thought that if you led a moral life and you truly cared about helping others, you would be “saved”. But the idea of burning for eternity because you were not lucky enough to pick the right religion scares me.</p>
<p>^^^My has always been that religions are good. That is to say the Bible, the Quran, the Torah, the Daodejing, the Rig-veda and everything else (that is to say all bonafide religious texts) are good.<br>
Often, however, religious followers can undermine the positive effects of this. For example, Medieval Christians began to persecute the Jews for causing the Black Plague, which is something Jesus probably would have been horrified by.</p>
<p>^It’s definitely unfair. Afterlife should be, and if there is an all knowing god, is, determined by one’s actions and not beliefs</p>
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It almost seems like even the bad people should be going to heaven… Since god is a merciful being. Lol.</p>
<p>“Agnostics are just atheists without balls.”
— Stephen Colbert</p>
<p>Ehh… If you’re not going to listen/pay attention to God, you might as well go the whole way.</p>
<p>So if you’re not sure that there’s a god, you automatically must say there is no way there can be a god? That makes no sense.</p>
<p>Hehe, I love Stephen Colbert.</p>
<p>Anyway, I grew up Catholic, go to Church every Sunday because my parents kinda make me. I don’t even know what to believe anymore.</p>
<p>Ehh… all I’m saying is that I’m okay with you being religious, but not caring… is being cowardly? Idk… I just thought it was a relevant quote.</p>
<p>Not caring is being cowardly? What about the sort of people that would just like to distance themselves from this sort of discussion?</p>
<p>As for myself, I vacillate between believing (or hoping) that there’s Someone Up There to listen to and/or help me out. Other times, I think it’s more comforting to know that we as human beings are capable of determining our own destinies.</p>
<p>Ultimately, who knows?</p>
<p>I was slightly kidding…</p>
<p>It was a quote, and I was trying to explain my interpretation of it. No offense meant.</p>
<p>In my experience, most self-described atheists realize that it is impossible to disprove or prove the existence of a god or Flying Spaghetti Monster. Some describe themselves as Teapot Agnostics to better emphasize this. Also, atheism and agnosticism are on two different spectrum, though many believe the Colbert quote. One can be an agnostic atheist, agnostic Christian, agnostic anything, if they admit that they cannot prove or disprove the existence of a god.</p>
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<p>Of course not</p>
<p>No one can prove the existence of anything aside from thought. We base our ideas off of our perception of events and facts that we have been told. We are born susceptible to those around us. We formulate our opinions based off what we have been taught by society and those around us. How are the viewpoint of society proven definitively true though? In actuality they are not. We assume that they are correct, as society’s opinion is the common opinion shared by a multitude of individuals that compose society. However, like our own existence and the true religion or reasoning behind our existence, it can’t be proven valid. It’s solely our perception of events, something that varies amongst individuals.</p>
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Maybe not cowardly, but stupid, per Pascal’s Wager</p>
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<p>That’s what predestination is for</p>