<p>E- I was going to use your situation as an example, but I KNEW you would appear to tell it yourself!! Good to see you.</p>
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<p>Don't want to hijack this thread, but that's a completely different conference; why would this have any bearing on what this specific school was looking for? If you want to attack me, at least tell me who you are. I guess this is the problem with being me, everyone knows who I am and loves talking about having a bad meet. Sorry I was one of two freshman jumpers at the conference championships, bro.</p>
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<p>Glad to be back, even though when I try to be helpful I get ripped on, hahaha.</p>
<p>It was not meant to be an attack, GC! Just a comment about the world of T&F recruiting where one is only as valuable as his last performances indicate. The hard part of competing in such events is that the clock and tape leave permanent records, with the notable exception of the wind-assisted ones.</p>
<p>Dean J- is a letter of intent different then an early read? With a letter of intent is the student guaranteed acceptance?</p>
<p>Depends on the school. Ivies cannot guarantee spots. Most kids end up committing verbally.</p>
<p>The national letter of intent contains a clause specifying that it will be void in the event that the student-athlete is denied admission by the university, so it does not imply a guaranteed acceptance. Also, the earliest point at which an athlete can sign an NLI is in November of the senior year.</p>
<p>Admission officers who aren't serving as athletic department liaisons are rarely aware of letters of intent.</p>
<p>An issue I have been pondering....
I believe some conferences attempt to maintain a level playing field regarding athletic recruiting, Patriot League comes to mind in Div I and NESCAC in Division III. How do they work around the fact that some schools within the conference are SAT optional. Does anyone have experience being recruited by these "optional" schools?? Does it not give them an advantage in who they can get admitted?</p>
<p>I'm not sure what you mean by a "level" playing field. I do know from experience that each of the NESCAC schools maintains its own admission policies for recruited athletes, although I believe that all are limited in the number of athletic recruits that can be admitted in each sports. The Ivies are bound by something called an academic index, which I believe is required to be at HYP than at the other schools.</p>
<p>I believe the Patriot League uses an Academic Index calculation as well. NESCAC has a certain number of recruits within certain academic bands if I'm not mistaken. Both are an attempt to level the recruiting field within the league. Just not sure how they perform the calculation if SAT's are not submitted?</p>
<p>Only a few schools in NESCAC are SAT optional. That said, most kids WILL have taken the SATs anyways so they would simply have to submit their scores, post admission, to prove that they qualify to play, I imagine.</p>
<p>The SAT scores of non-submitters at these schools are only (or at least at Sarah Lawrence) 50 points total lower than those of SAT submitters.</p>
<p>If the athlete needs to to approved by the NCAA Clearinghouse, then they must take the SAT, even if the school does not require it.</p>
<p>^The Clearinghouse is ONLY for D1 athletics.</p>
<p>The Clearinghouse would not apply to the D3 NESCAC conference, but it does apply for both D1 and D2 athletics.</p>
<p>I know a recruited female rower. She was approached at an international meet in Europe. She replied favorably to the approach and she received two five year offers, incl airfare. She received the offers in October, in writing. The schools flew her (overseas) to see the schools at their expense in early November. They had to have her decision before Nov 15th, I believe. </p>
<p>The acceptance was based on a successful SAT--which she took in October and scored over 1400. She had a great GPA.</p>
<p>She is in her fourth year of rowing for one of the schools.</p>
<p>She will probably be on the Olympic team of her home country.</p>
<p>I had contact with a coupel D-I and D-III coaches. I felt all the coaches i talked to made sure i knew nothing was a sure yes but they spoke like i would be accepted. </p>
<p>One D-III coach called regularly and offered me an official visit only after i got accepted and i hadn't even received my accpetance packet from that school. I applied like any other student to that school. Another D-III coach gave me an application that had it marked as a athlete. He called a day or two before the official acceptance packet arrived. The last coach was the only coach that told me what he had me ranked on his athlete recruit list. I applied EA and got accepted and he called me on the actual day i got my acceptance letter. So I had three different D-III school do it all different with regards to athletic recruiting so i would just ask how they do it.</p>
<p>This has been a great thread for parents of athletes and student-athletes too. How about recruiting for those "obscure" sports... like fencing (duh)? Any ideas out there? Div 1 or Div 3? Maybe those 2 Div 2 schools?</p>
<p>Don't mean to hijack, but I have a question concerning walk ons. My friends daughter has been told by a lacrosse coach that she can not offer a scholarship, but she wanted to send her grades and test scores to admissions and offered her a walk on spot. Does this mean this student will be able to play on the team, or is this just a chance to tryout once she arrives on campus? She has the grades and scores to attend the school without being recruited so I was wondering if the coach didn't want to waste a recuited spot on her.</p>
<p>Maybe. I know some schools use invited walkons to save some scholies if the kid has good grades but maybe not a superstar. In football you would get to practice as they don't have cuts.</p>
<p>Should have mentioned that my rower friend has been on the varsity team eight since freshman year. The team won a silver medal in the 2006 division I championships.</p>