Average GPA of JHU Students

<p>What is the average GPA of JHU students? I searched the forums and seem not be able to find a satisfactory answer. The National</a> Trends in Grade Inflation, American Colleges and Universities site shows JHU average GPA as:</p>

<p>2005 3.23</p>

<p>2006 3.24</p>

<p>which are lower than school like Harvard which has a GPA around 3.4-3.5.</p>

<p>3.23 is about right. However, last fall 26.7% of Krieger students had a 3.5 or better. I bet engineering students have a tougher time. [Grade</a> inflation a national trend - News & Features](<a href=“http://media.www.jhunewsletter.com/media/storage/paper932/news/2009/03/05/NewsFeatures/Grade.Inflation.A.National.Trend-3662935.shtml]Grade”>http://media.www.jhunewsletter.com/media/storage/paper932/news/2009/03/05/NewsFeatures/Grade.Inflation.A.National.Trend-3662935.shtml)
Go to Harvard, Haverford or especially Brown for easier "A"s</p>

<p>From Hopkins: [Greek</a> Grade Information, Fall 2008](<a href=“Office of the Dean of Student Life | Student Affairs”>Office of the Dean of Student Life | Student Affairs)
It has not yet been updated to include Spring 2009 (and as you can observe, spring grades tend to be a little higher).</p>

<p>^Thanks for the link. I wonder why the average GPA at JHU is lower than its peer schools. The lower GPA puts the students at JHU at a disadvantage if they decide to apply for graduate schools or professional schools.</p>

<p>^ it is a lower GPA, yes, but the value of it being from Johns Hopkins makes it better in a way. Johns Hopkins is known for not inflating grades which in turn makes a 3.0 look better than a 3.0 from another school which isn’t known for the same practices as JHU. the rigor and dedication which a B from Hopkins would require is quite high.</p>

<p>you can research about grade inflation on various sources on the net or even here on collegeconfidential.com :] it’s pretty interesting stuff.</p>

<p>phuloridian is exactly right. But if you think about it, a 3.20 isn’t as low as you think. It means that the average grade is between a B and a B+, being closer to a B+. If you want a school where the average grade is an A-, then you want grade inflation and Hopkins isn’t for you.</p>

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My concern is that not enough people know the rigor of JHU and they may just treat it as another top school which usually has an avergage GPA between 3.4-3.6.
Here are some of the schools:
Stanford: 3.55 (2005)
Dartmouth: 3.42 (2007)
Duke: 3.44 (2007)
Yale: 3.51 (2008)
Harvard: 3.45 (2005)
Rice: 3.3 (2001)</p>

<p>Maybe the lower GPA at JHU gives it the “cut-throat” reputation (or myth).</p>

<p>actually no. from what i know and what i’ve heard, the people who actually matter after college, graduate schools, employers, etc. know the reputation of hopkins. it is ranked as one of the top 20.
it also depends on who the “people” that you’re talking about are.
i do know that it’s medically renowned because it is one of the best hospitals in the nation.
the school seriously does have a reputation, it’s not as widely known as a “brand name” college, you could say that in a sense, as the top 5, HPYSM, as a household name, but it’s pretty well known with doctors and other people.
if you ask your doctor or someone you that you think should know about it and they most probably will.</p>

<p>^^JHU is pretty well known and there is no question about it. Its low GPA, however, will definitely hurt its students if they decide to apply for graduate school. For example, if a graduate admission committee look at two applications, one from Stanford with a 3.55, the other from JHU with 3.23, What impression will they get? Obviously, the Stanford guy is going to look better. In reality both are average GPA in their respective schools.</p>

<p>Conclusion: JHU professors need to raise their grades.</p>

<p>Maybe AdmissionsDaniel should advocate this in JHU on behalf of the students.</p>

<p>I disagree. Then you end up with grade inflation and that is indicative of nothing. When I get an A in a class, I want that A to mean something, and not get an A simply because I was marginally better than average.</p>

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<p>No it doesn’t. </p>

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<p>No they don’t. </p>

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<p>No I won’t. </p>

<p>In my time at Hopkins I have witnessed five classes of graduating seniors and I can attest their post-graduate success rates are comparable with all the top institutions in the country. I have witnessed our graduating seniors get into the best medical schools, the best law schools, the best business schools, the best graduate programs, the best combined masters/PhD programs in the country and the world. Our Career Center has documeted the success of our graduates and the reports are absolutely comparable with schools that have higher average GPAs and what some might say better reputations.</p>

<p>Grading at Hopkins is quite fair. There is no grade inflation and there is no grade deflation. Students earn their grades. </p>

<p>More importantly, if you really think the average GPA of an institution is the sole variable in whether those undergraduates will be successful post-graduation you really don’t understand who admission to medical / law / graduate (etc.) school works.</p>

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This chart shows otherwise.
<a href=“wsjclassroomedition.com”>wsjclassroomedition.com;

<p>WRT grade inflation, everyone is doing it. Why not JHU? When a floold is coming, eveyone runs toward the high ground and the one who stands still will get drowned.</p>

<p>That says absolutely nothing other than not all Hopkins grads go immediately into grad school. Grade inflation is terrible as it doesn’t actually indicate anything and will hurt you. Let’s say I really suck at real analysis (not to be cocky, but I don’t) but the professor still gives me an A. I apply to grad school, get in, and start taking my grad courses in measure theory, PDE,… But I suck at analysis so I have no chance of doing well. Then what?</p>

<p>Grade inflation does nothing to distinguish students. If everyone is getting an A, then either everyone is a genius or everyone appears exactly the same. Then what?</p>

<p>If you don’t think Hopkins will help you get anywhere, then don’t go.</p>

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<p>I am not making an arguement for myself. I am trying to have JHU change their grade policy so that every JHU student will benefit. Almost every school is following the grade inflation tide, JHU is arrogant for not to follow the trend and it ends up hurting the students.</p>

<p>No they’re not arrogant, they just see that A’s should not be given out just because people want them.</p>

<p>The one thing I will say is, I wish Hopkins would actually weight A+'s to counterbalance A-'s.</p>

<p>“More importantly, if you really think the average GPA of an institution is the sole variable in whether those undergraduates will be successful post-graduation you really don’t understand who admission to medical / law / graduate (etc.) school works.”</p>

<p>Graduate schools are often rankings hungry…US news business/law/medical rankings incorporate average GPA into the rankings. It doesn’t matter if a student went to JHU or Iowa…schools prefer to not pull down rankings with low stats, even if they are understandable due to grade deflation. I think the tone of that post was unnecessarily arrogant and dismissive of criticism of JHU. Maybe you are the one who doesn’t understand how grad schools admissions work?</p>

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<p>every school is entitled to have it’s own policy. you are also entitled to your own opinion. everyone deserves to have their views respected, regardless of whether or not they’re widely observed or followed. students choose schools which they believe will be beneficial to them. schools choose students which they believe will add to their student pool and do whatnot [depending on what the school looks for in it’s student body and what the law requires]. i’m pretty sure the students in JHU are well aware of how their grades will affect their admission into graduate school. i’m also pretty sure that no one’s in there because they HAVE to be there [it’s not like the place is a prison; it sure doesn’t look like one]. </p>

<p>if the students wanted change, i’m quite sure that they’re capable of it. if they didn’t expect themselves to be held up to such high standards, they wouldn’t have applied. i think you’re doubting the ability my age group and i find your comments to be disparaging.</p>

<p>“jumping on the bandwagon” isn’t always the best way to go. as i said before, everyone is entitled to their own views and usually they’re respected because if they seem to be working for whatever goal they’re intended for, then they probably are. :]</p>

<p>btw, your argument needs more credibility. with the information you’ve provided thus far, it seems to be lacking. just a thought though.</p>

<p>I think JHU gives Average GPAs reasnonablly if you check students with
combined 75th SAT reading and Math scores.
JHU is much lower than UPENN, DUKE, Columbia, even lower than RICE, Cornell, NW.
[Top</a> 500 Ranked Universities for Highest SAT 75th Percentile Scores](<a href=“USA University College Directory - U.S. University Directory - State Universities and College Rankings”>Top 500 Ranked Colleges - Highest SAT 75th Percentile Scores)</p>

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It’s true that schools with less “stellar students” generally have lower GPA, but that is not the case for JHU. Georgetown, Wellesley, Middlebury, Hartford, and Emory all have lower SAT, but higher GPA.</p>

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