B-School

<p>What are good ways of bettering my chances of getting into the B-Program?
I'm taking english 125 over the summer now, econ 101 in the fall and math 115 in the winter. I'm taking LS&A course requirements as my other classes + UROP. Should I do anything else? Like should i e-mail someone and seem really interested? Any lobbying techniques?</p>

<p>Justin</p>

<p>-taking higher level classes, if possible, rather than taking all intro classes.
-being involved in clubs/sports/organizations..anything you're interested in.
-taking a leadership position, if possible.
-no, emailing someone and seeming really interested won't help
-attend the prebusiness information sessions, go to pre-bus. counselors (all this info should be on the bschool site)</p>

<p>They do say that they prefer it if you complete all the humanities and other dumb requirements by the time you enroll. Also, the foreign language requirement (just place out of it).</p>

<p>OK I want to take Humanities classes during the winter...what should I take that helps my admission? I placed out of spanish...What clubs look good? I need all the help I can get!!</p>

<p>What clubs do you recommend? What leadership positions can i possibly take as a freshman? Any other great tips?</p>

<p>"Any other great tips?"</p>

<p>Relax.</p>

<p>Heres what I did for ecs at michigan to get into the b-school</p>

<p>-Dance Marathon: a lot of kids do this. Its for a good cause, its fun, and a good way to meet people
-Hall Council: I was a vice president of my floor. I guess that showed leadership and I wrote about that for one of my essays and I also included it on my resume</p>

<p>And in addition to what samwise said, relax. You're going to be a freshman, realistically, nobody expects you to get a leadership position as a freshman. Show involvement and commitment to an activity, or something that you like. Examples of this could include pledging a frat, you could become your pledge class's president. I know my friends that did frat did way more **** for that than I ever did for hall council.</p>

<p>Really, attend the b-school info sessions and pre-business counseling since they record your name and student ID, this shows your intention and commitment.</p>

<p>I also think one of the biggest boost to my chances at the bschool was taking Econ401 second semester and pulling off a B+ in that class.</p>

<p>Q: What are the criteria for admission?</p>

<p>A: We are looking for students who:</p>

<p>Demonstrate concise writing and clear goals in their essays,
Have developed and demonstrated their leadership abilities and initiative in campus involvement, community service, or work experience, and
Have a strong academic record with full course loads (14-16 credit hours) and a challenging curriculum. Good performance in qualitative and quantitative courses is important. High grades are important but we know it is not unusual to see grade fluctuations in the first year since most students are still acclimating. Your overall record is what we judge, not one class. However, to be admitted it is important to be competitive in our pool of applicants, which means doing well academically. </p>

<p>Q: What leadership activities are better to show?</p>

<p>A: We are interested in the quality of the experience. You should demonstrate to us how well you work in teams, motivate, put forth ideas, the kind of leader you are—all of this is important. The types of activities vary—student organizations, varsity sports, internships, part-time jobs and volunteer work are common.</p>

<p>I recently sat down with an advisor at the B-school during my orientation. We talked about these concerns for an hour. She basically told me, make sure your GPA is high. Take the B-school prerequisites(Econ 101, English,Math 115) and continue a foreign language (or start a new one). She also recommended taking Econ 102 and Stats 350 Winter/Spring term to be competitive. I showed up with several upper level courses on my schedule, she said, verbatim, "What the hell are you thinking?" She said to take mostly intro classes and build from there and be involved with 2 clubs seriously. So expressing interest may not hurt. She also placed major emphasis on the writing you submit with your application.</p>

<p>When I went to the prebusiness info sessions last year, the dean of admissions specifically said that It's better to take higher level classes in a certain area, to build on it, rather than taking all intro-classes. This coming from the lady who makes the decisions, so it's good advice. It makes you stand out, esp if you do well in them.</p>

<p>Also, join what you're interested in, it doesnt matter what it is really (they can see if you're taking the business clubs just to impress them). Just be focused and dedciated.</p>

<p>I did:
Habitat for humanity
Student world assembly (secretary)
Reach Out (mentoring program with middle school)
World Service Team (went to peru for a month)</p>

<p>*i was say more involved with the latter 2 than the first 2. </p>

<p>No, they don't prefer you to do anythign with the requirements, but you can if you want. Take classes that interest you and that you can succeed in (not too easy or too hard).</p>

<p>Hope that helped, and good luck!</p>

<p>I think there are many avenues to persue to be admitted to the b school. Some are more effective for others. Upper level courses may help, but you have to be very interested in them. As far as clubs, of course show leadership, but like you said, you have to show interest.</p>

<p>Basically a student taking 200, 300, even 400 level classes (and does well in them) stands out from the students who take all 100 level classes (the dean stressed this as well). I know people who did pretty badly in 400 level classes and still got in.</p>

<p>So by taking upper level courses you think this gives an edge? I agree that it will, but I think no student should take those high level classes their first term, for the sake of not knowing your surroundings. If you take 3 upper level classes your first term, odds are your GPA will not be to great. Try it your second term, that's what I'm going to do. But like I said earlier, there are many avenues to persue to be admitted to the b school</p>

<p>Yes, I agree..don't take them if you don't think you can't handle them. But getting a "B" in a 300/400 level class looks much better than getting an A in an intro class. I'm not saying to take all upper level classes, that too, would be a mistake, but taking a couple over the year would def. be beneficial. I know many people with lower than average GPAs but very challenging classes who got in. Don't be afraid of challenge (but at the same time, know your limits).</p>

<p>And even taking 100/200 level classes in 1-2 areas might be better than taking them all over the spectrum. It shows focus. And everyone knows that classes like psych 111, soc 101, anthro 101 are easiest classes in the subject..and by taking all these classes..it'll look like you're just trying to "take the easy way out" to get a high GPA.</p>

<p>Anyways, this is the conclusion I came by talking to a lot friends this year (accepted and rejected), talking to upperclassman in the bschool, and the dean of admissions.
And although there are many "avenues to pursue" to be admitted, courseload plays an extremely significant factor.</p>

<p>I agree with what you are saying, I know you have more experience with Ross admissions than I do, but I just want to make sure that people don't misunderstand what we are discussing. Yes, Upper level classes are great to take to exhibit a challenge, but there is nothing wrong with taking a sound foundation in a certain area.</p>

<p>I plan on a dual major, business/linguistics, so i'm taking a language, econ, ling seminar, and english...everyone has to get past those pre reqs. I think this is an ideal first term for anyone persuing an admittance to the b school. </p>

<p>For the next term, that's a different story. Take an upper level language, upper level stats, upper level ling, econ 102 or upper level, but the key is to take it because it interests you, not because you want the b school to see upper level classes on your app. </p>

<p>And I do agree, courseload is important, just make sure you are acclimated before jumping into upper level classes. Get a feeling for Ann Arbor, find a job if you're getting one, find some clubs and develop a presence there. Once second semester comes around, you should have a great idea of what UMich is all about and then dive in.</p>