<p>Has anyone heard instances of people ratting other people out at school?</p>
<p>I'm especially suspicious because next year is my senior year, and I expect there to be a fair amount of ruined friendships (perhaps not by means of backstabbing, but selfishness, for example). </p>
<p>If it were up to me, I wouldn't care because I know that there are millions of kids in the world competing for college, but there are some people at my school who are so cutthroat, and that's causing me to draw back and be suspicious of others. For example, I would love to help other people out, but sometimes I feel like they take advantage of my generosity, pushing it at times to "can I have your tests?", etc. It's hard to decline...</p>
<p>So perhaps my question can be rephrased as:
Have you guys heard of any instances where a student sabotaged another in their senior year?</p>
<p>First of all, anything that helps others in cheating is your own fault. That’s not generosity, that’s just plain stupidity. No offense, but if you let people have your tests, thats your own fault.</p>
<p>Yes i’ve done it to people. College is competition, I sometimes value competition over friendship, plus, it’s just HS, it’s not like you will see them again, unless you go to the same university or go to reunion.</p>
<p>You do what you got to do to get into college as well as care only for yourself. You can help others ie: criticize their essays, tell them that you need more of X and less of Y as ECs, etc… </p>
<p>One of my friend got rescinded from his university because he was on the verge of failing one of his classes, and needed my test to pass the class, but I was like hell no. You study your own a$$ off. It wasn’t even difficult… Implicit differentials… seriously…</p>
<p>Now he goes to a CC and hates me to the end of the world :). Not like it matters deeply to me though, like you, i was a very generous person, but when it became clear to me that he was just leeching my scores, it ****ed me off that it took me three years to realize lol!</p>
<p>It’s not the only case either. Many people at our school do it when it comes to college application time. People start to abandon the group to focus more and they become more caution about those who applied to the same universities, focusing on their chances to get in. Unless your best friend with your person who needs help and want to go to the same university, by all means help each other. But when acceptances come and if only one of you get in, expect some jealously and hate for a bit.</p>
<p>Ouch, ChristianWu, that was pretty harsh of you to do, especially because this person is your “friend.” That’s a b**** move right there. I think that most of the times friendship>competition, but even among people who don’t know each other, it’s difficult for me to imagine people being that desperate to rise above the competition…</p>
<p>ChristianWu has every right to do what s/he did (I’m pretty sure s/he had reasons…). Don’t trust people, even your best friend. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t be nice, or help (within reason - if someone wants to cheat off you, tell them to get lost), but DON’T expect things, and NEVER get into a situation where you NEED them.</p>
<p>I remember when I helped a friend with some questions he had, an hour before the exam. We went through the material and I corrected a few things for him and tried to help him understand a few things (it wasn’t something I did just that one time, I almost always do this). Then, 30 seconds later, I asked if I could borrow his paper for a few minutes (he wasn’t using it)…and guess what? He SHOUTED at me (“NO! WHY SHOULD I GIVE IT TO YOU!?”) and basically told me to eff off.</p>
<p>@Cadillac
Start learning how to say no, you’ll need to. Practice using the word if it’ll help. </p>
<p>Don’t EVER do anything for anyone else if it makes you lose something. Your principles (clich</p>
<p>I don’t go out of my way to snitch on people or anything, but the point of about not being used for the advantage of others is valid. A kid in my english class is a pathological “user” who never returns any favors. He kept asking me to summarize the previous night’s reading in the beginning of class, during the time when I was supposed to be reviewing for the quiz that would inevitably be given in a few minutes. In December, I had to tell him, “Please shut the **** up and do your own God Damn homework,” at which point my teacher lol’d and then tried to pretend that she didn’t.</p>
<p>Yes, my school is soooo competitive; everyone backstabs each other. And I’m talking freshman year. I’m don’t mean not letting people cheat; there’s nothing wrong with that. I mean like if there’s some kind of prestigious group that everyone is running for a position in, people will do ANYTHING to get ahead of their opponents. Including *****ing about friends and spreading rumors. It’s beyond irritating.</p>
<p>some ass in my research group presented my research at a conference without crediting me. i reported her to the deans and now she hates my guts :3</p>
<p>I did assist him in studying, but after all those years of copying off of me in mathematics, he basically didn’t know where to start, which at one point is my fault also.</p>
<p>And yes, trust is something very important. </p>
<p>What I did of course was effin harsh, but that was his own fault. I just got fed up! :)</p>
<p>So in the end, say no if you feel like they are taking advantage of you, and start saying no almost every time if someone wants to copy off of you, unless they say something of this sort,</p>
<p>“Help me with my homework, tell me how to do this.”</p>
<p>or </p>
<p>“Can I see your paper on how I got this wrong?”</p>
<p>these answers are yes lol, of course its obvious but meh, just throwing that out there</p>
<p>My school isn’t elite at all, in fact, its in the fourth quintile percentage, meaning its the lowest of the low. But among the top students, almost the slackers who are smart by nature, but lazy as well, just copy off of the hard working students and are “friends.”</p>
<p>Thanks guys for your ideas. My school is a pretty good school, but from my classmates, I hear senior year is pretty chill.</p>
<p>I do realize I need to “learn to say no” – wow that’s kinda sad, especially after all those “say no to drugs” informational sessions or whatever I’ve been to haha. (So far, no drugs, so rest assured :p).</p>
<p>The problem is, I’m pretty sure almost everyone in high school has cheated at some point in their high school career. Sure, better start saying no now than before it’s too late, but there’s always the idea that if you say no, they will rat you out – and let’s say the administration contacts you and asks “did you cheat?” – what are you going to say?</p>
<p>Oh and also, at this point, I’m pretty sure if someone goes down, everyone will. But so far it hasn’t happened yet, and I really hope it will be an honorable senior year (honorable as in not ruining other people)…</p>
<p>I don’t cheat a lot, and I definately don’t depend on it. some people perhaps have hard evidence (ex. photocopies of my work), but that is indeed my fault – nothing I can do now.</p>
lol, of course its obvious but meh, just throwing that out there</p>