<p>Very good pre-profession programs -> bad Liberal arts program. Ex. What are you going to do as a film major at Emory? </p>
<p>Constructions are renovating campus EVERYWHERE. -> Best campus EVER after 2014! </p>
<p>Waste/Abuse of resources (I guess every college has this problem). Work hard to fix this. YOU can do it. </p>
<p>I can't think of any others. Just a warning, Emory is not as perfect as you may have thought.</p>
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<p>This example concerns film majors at every university, not just Emory. So, it doesn't prove that Emory specifically is worse than other universities for liberal arts.</p>
<p>Unless you're trying to make the argument that the liberal arts programs at Emory are not very prestigious, and therefore don't attract attention from employers, whereas the liberal arts departments at, say Harvard, do.</p>
<p>You do realize that the USNews ranking of 18 is, in effect, a ranking of the UG liberal arts program, right? The B schools have their own ranking and the grad schools have their own rankings. </p>
<p>You also must realize that Emory has one of the top Liberal Arts faculties in the US. </p>
<p>Why would you poste this nonsense on here without any logical argument for your claims?</p>
<p>While the liberal arts programs are no less prestigious than those of other top universities, I have gotten the impression that there is a greater interest in the business program than at peer institutions, thus decreasing the emphasis on a liberal arts education. I am not trying to criticize Emory; this was just what the atmosphere seemed like when I visited. Current students please correct me if this observation is off base.</p>
<p>IMO, having a business school at the undergraduate level does make the general atmosphere at Emory more pre-professional than the atmospheres of many other top universities and colleges which lack one. I don't think that the pre-professional sentiment manifests itself in the classroom of liberal arts classes, however. If it does, it's only in the lower level classes that fulfill general requirements; where b-school students who hate English, for example, make for poor participants in an required English class. To an extent, this will happen at all colleges with a core or requirements, however. </p>
<p>The pre-professional influence is felt outside of the classroom (unless, of course, you take business classes),and it is largely felt by the make up of the student body. The students drawn to the university for it's business school have certain stereotypical characteristics that liberal arts students may lack -- extroverted, drive to make money, rich, attractive, athletic, more conservative, etc. Of course these are generalizations, but I don't think you can reasonably ignore the truth in them.</p>
<p>The pre-professional influence is also felt in subtle ways. You take calculus II whereas a friend takes Business Calculus. People from the business school knock on your dorm room and try to sell you crap. Mark Cuban gives a widely attended speech on campus about succeeding in business.</p>
<p>But it's important not to make the mistake of claiming that, because Emory has good pre-professional programs, it therefore has bad liberal arts. That's just not true.</p>
<p>what do people mean when they say, liberal arts program? Like the general core corriculum?</p>
<p>Interesting comments from students. As a parent of a freshman, I was pleasantly surprised at Emory's liberal arts program. There are a lot of General Educational Requirements for regular undergrads (not speaking about the nursing or business students) which means that all students graduate from Emory with a well rounded education. I have found that this liberal arts is re-enforced by the speakers and other campus activities. My D has developed all kinds of interests she did not have before b/c of the exposure to different courses/lectures/etc. on campus. For example, check out the new Global Health minor and the new institute - very exciting and overlaps with students who are interested in business/medicine/anthropology, etc. Also, I have been very impressed with the attentiveness of professors. One of D's professors was nationally reknown in his field - in the public often. In three of her classes she got to know the professors pretty well with not much effort. Another thing I liked was that in one of D's intro classes, the prof gave extra credit on some forumla for attending designated lectures/films/ etc. and then doing a write up. This was a great way to encourage kids to branch out and make time to attend various events that they might have foregone to study. I find, as a parent, that our D gets the best of both worlds - the liberal arts plus the pre-professional options if she decides that is for her. I am not sure how Emory is different in this regard than a school like UPenn which also offers business and nursing.</p>
<p>Blaze, thanks for the clarification.</p>
<p>The main thing wrong with Emory is that it has too much money.</p>
<p>Imagine how many colleges wish they had that problem!</p>
<p>First of all, I want to apologize for having made a fallacy by saying, "pre-prof good -> liberal arts bad." All I meant was that because so much emphasis is placed upon pre-professions, a non pre-career student often feels inferior (more insecure) to those who are pre-something. </p>
<p>At one point or another at Emory you will meet at least one student who is a liberal arts major and will be pressured into one of those several pre-profession paths. </p>
<p>The purpose of the first posting was to notify some students of what they will face at Emory. I am not trying to depreciate Emory. I am deeply sorry if I have offended anyone or even Emory's name by such a mistake. However, I do hope people who have read this comment don't make the mistake of choosing a pre-profession just because everyone at Emory is doing so. After all, most students here are pre-med/pre-business, sometimes making the simply liberal arts students feel inferior (personal opinion, subjective claim.)*</p>
<p>*Has it never happened to you when a pre-med (in my case) asks "what's your major?" and when you reply they give you that look of... "why? why not just pre-business or pre-law?" or sometimes even ask "what do you want to do with that?" and you end up answering something you are not even sure of it yourself? </p>
<p>A friend of mine who's an English major said, "Humanities is the abandoned child of Emory... Individual liberal arts programs are good but Emory is a pre-school." </p>
<p>Once again, I apologize for what I've done, I only did it because I, myself was one of the people that used to think Emory was the perfect place for me, and wanted other people to know that it might not be as perfect as they think. However, I never mentioned that the "flaws" were pertaining to Emory only. I could by a flaw in other colleges as well. I just listed the ones I confronted at Emory myself.</p>
<p>Jae Yang
Emory College 09'
<a href="mailto:jyang8@emory.edu">jyang8@emory.edu</a></p>