<p>Sorry, I get a little worked up...but Barnard's a very very good school so it isn't any "worse" than Columbia.</p>
<p>what r u arguing exactly....</p>
<p>columbia university doesnt take credit for barnard grads....since when is drownout.com columbia.edu??? stop being silly....all u've proven is that u believe whatever u r told. </p>
<p>and noone is arguing that they dont benefit from one another.</p>
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Why don't you learn when to use "worse" and "worst" and stop insulting Barnard you TURD.
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<p>actually it was used correctly, they are interchangeable....</p>
<p>i hate dumb low class highschool kids</p>
<p>Exactly how are they used interchangeably? Please, explain this one to me, oh great wise one...</p>
<p>please point out the difference</p>
<p>seriously columbia pwns barnard end of discussion. But barnard is a good school though.</p>
<p>oh my..
"worst" is the superlative of "bad"</p>
<p>you cannot use "worse" as a superlative, only in comparisons</p>
<p>What? In english please....Did you say Columbia owns Barnard....</p>
<p>Please, tell me that you're not relying on an online dictionary to justify your INCORRECT grammar usage. The difference is: "bad" is the positive degree, "worse" is the comparative degree, and "worst" is the superlative degree. I may only be in high school, but at least I can tell the difference between these two words; something I learned in 1st grade.<br>
Next thing you'll be telling me is that the contraction for "I have" is spelled "I'v" instead of "I've". Why don't you show this to your English professor and ask who's correct?</p>
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<p>crazyapp2010, stop being stupid.....</p>
<p>.....all i know is i got A- in U writing and two As in lit hum....and i'm an engineer so i can bend u over when it comes to any math or science.....</p>
<p>end of discussion</p>
<p>I'm sure you could beat me in math or science; after all, you are in college and I'm still in hs. As for your English skills, clearly I beat you there; so stop being stupid Shraf. But let's end this little discussion now and go back to the original topic.</p>
<p>since when is this a competition? y do u want me to admit that u r better than me at something, will that make u feel better about urself? did u get rejected from some columbia and need to console urself somehow? whats the deal really? Are u a barnard girl? or are u just some fresh abnoxious 17 year old who thinks its important how i use the word worst on an internet forum where i am just here to help idiots like u when chosing colleges....seriously have some respect u ungrateful piece of trash.</p>
<p>You started this "competition": "I can bend you over when it comes to math or science". You are a pretentious dimwit and you're not helping me get into college. Does coming online offering "advice" to people make you feel special or something? Why don't you have some respect you grammatically-challenged buffoon?! I apologized to you, but you responded anyway! The only trash here is you.</p>
<p>Come on guys....be nice!</p>
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Barnard students can take classes at Columbia, and that they have full access to Butler Library and other University resources. When they graduate, they receive a Columbia University degree, as do students of Columbia College, because degrees are granted only by the University, not by the undergraduate colleges of the University. Barnard students who meet the relevant qualifications can enroll in accelerated graduate-degree programs that Barnard sponsors with Columbia's School of International & Public Affairs and the Columbia Law School. In athletics, Barnard students can join the University's varsity teams and compete at the NCAA Division I level....</p>
<p>*n an average year, Columbia undergraduates attend 6,300 courses at Barnard. Columbia students majoring in or otherwise interested in dance, theater, architecture and urban studies benefit enormously from the Barnard connection, because in these disciplines, Barnard runs the official undergraduate programs for the entire University. Barnard also offers a program in teacher education for all University undergraduates. ...</p>
<p>Barnard and Columbia collaborate on faculty hiring in order to avoid duplication of resources, and Barnard faculty members teach about 40 graduate courses a year at Columbia. Barnard faculty members who are up for tenure must pass a review by the University once they have passed successfully through the College's own review process
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Source: <a href="http://www.barnard.columbia.edu/alum/magazine/pastissues/winter03/winter03presidentspage.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.barnard.columbia.edu/alum/magazine/pastissues/winter03/winter03presidentspage.html</a></p>
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<p>I came for info about Barnard. Yes, I was rejected from Columbia. I have absolutely no problem admitting that. But that was not my first choice. And I apologized b/c I realized I was wrong in calling you a "turd", so there was no need to be snotty, Ashraf. Can you please stop replying now? Clearly, it doesn't take a lot to make you angry.</p>
<p>Shraf did make valid points in clarifying the particulars of CC/SEAS/GS vs. Barnard. </p>
<p>Based on personal experience: I know lots of girls--of decent by but no means exceptional academic qualifications--who got rejected by CC then applied to Barnard and got in. What this suggests is that Barnard, though it may admit like around 24% of applicants for the Class of 2010 (<a href="http://www.barnard.edu/newnews/news033106.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.barnard.edu/newnews/news033106.html</a>) admits applicants of a lower academic index (avg of SAT's, GPA, etc.) than CC or SEAS. Nothing to argue here; it's all pure fact based on statistics.</p>
<p>For a Barnard student or graduate to advertise herself as a Columbia University student/grad seems a bit deceptive. To use the language Columbia University itself uses, Barnard (and the Jewish Theological Seminary) are "affiliated institutions" (<a href="http://www.columbia.edu/academic_programs/index.html)%5B/url%5D">http://www.columbia.edu/academic_programs/index.html)</a>. A BC student should say she went to Barnard (and be proud of the fact that she went there). A CC or SEAS could say they went to those individual schools but let's say I went to SEAS and then went for a job and was asked where did I go to school, I couldn't just say, "oh, I went to the School of Engineering and Applied Science". I would have to say in which university--that is, Columbia--this is an undergraduate college. Barnard graduates, on the other hand, need not say Columbia, though many do. It seems counterproductive for BC grads to do this because as far as I understand it, BC grads are all very supportive of one another. There is quite an established network the world-over. And ultimately, these girls shouldn't be ashamed of going to Barnard.</p>
<p>I have a question. If Columbia students are so concerned with the admission rate of students who attend classes at Columbia, why aren't Columbia students upset over the ED practices of their school? </p>
<p>In 2004-2005, Columbia accepted 42% of its class ED. Of the students who applied ED, there was a 30% admit rate. The RD acceptance rate was 11%.</p>
<p>That means that of the 1,331 Columbia students enrolled, 559 came in via a process that gave them an almost one-in-three chance of admission; this number is larger than the entire entering Barnard class of 553 students.</p>
<p>While Barnard also uses ED and there is a favorable admissions rate for that group, Barnard took a significantly lower proportion of their class from their ED pool - only 30%. The RD admit rate for that year at Barnard was 26%, or closer to a one-in-four chance; there were 387 students at Barnard who came in RD. In other words, </p>
<p>So it looks like the biggest "back door" into Columbia is their own ED program, because obviously it is easier to get in ED to Columbia than it is to enter Barnard RD. A student who preferred Columbia to Barnard would definitely choose to use their one ED option at Columbia -- statistically that would be the easier way to get into Columbia.</p>
<p>While it was statistically even easier to get into Barnard ED, the total number of ED students enrolled that year via Barnard was only 166 - less than a third of the number of students who came in via Columbia ED, and representing less than 9% of the total combined enrollment of the entering class at both schools. </p>
<p>If you combine the Barnard and Columbia ED numbers, you see that 775 students - or 54% of the entering class - came in by a process that substantially increased their chances of admission. Of that lax admissions group, 72% were Columbia ED admits.</p>
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calmom, that's a bit misleading. A lot of top students see Columbia as a first-choice from the getgo, and since the ED pool is filled mostly with students who are sure of their college choice (and not just people who think they'll be "helped" by ED), it skews the quality of the applicant pool, and therefore the acceptance rate. And you can't use raw numbers to compare the supposed qualities of either BC or CC, because the latter gets almost four times as many applicants as the former. ED statistics are always a bit better for Columbia College than RD statistics. But someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.</p>
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crazyapp2010, stop being stupid.....</p>
<p>.....all i know is i got A- in U writing and two As in lit hum....and i'm an engineer so i can bend u over when it comes to any math or science.....</p>
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<p>Typical attitude of an engineering student? I certainly hope not (although, when dealing with engineers, this is often the attitude that surfaces), and I also hope this attitude isn't typical of Columbia students (whether in CC or SEAS).</p>
<p>I can tell from this and other Barnard vs. Columbia threads that quite a few Columbia students not only have a problem with Barnard, but have a superiority complex in general. I applied to Barnard (and got accepted) and didn't apply to Columbia; however, I'm glad I won't be at either school this fall.</p>