Bates Hall vs. Tower Complex?

<p>Soooo....I'm in Bates, but I REALLY wanted Tower. It may sound petty, but I LOVED Tower when my sister moved in, and I loved the common room and the hardwood floors. Bates is...architecturally considerably less appealing to me and I am strongly considering trying to change. </p>

<p>Pros:
Bates= near the science center, bigger rooms, biggest cafeteria, quiet
Tower= gorgeous, closer to inner campus stuff, hardwood floors, cozier, more social</p>

<p>Cons:
Bates= too far from all the info places (like wang center or athletics or other classes), not very pretty at all, not very cozy.
Tower= ....</p>

<p>I don't know! What do you think?</p>

<p>People complain about the distance between the new dorms (bates, freeman, mcafee) to the campus center and the sports center. Is it really that far? No. I did it for two years and it was fine – and honestly, walking those few extra minutes to the campus center means that you don’t get the freshmen 15 and thus, don’t have to go to the sports center anyways (unless of course, you’re an athlete or you like to work out … to each her own). </p>

<p>The architecture is different. That doesn’t mean you aren’t going to like the building and the people you live with though.</p>

<p>Switching in general is difficult but can be done. The first few weeks there is a room freeze and nobody can change rooms. After that, you can decide with your roommate if you all want to switch – generally speaking, this means finding another pair of people who want to switch with you. </p>

<p>If you have issues with your roommate (which you obviously have no idea if you will or not yet…), you could do a body for body swap. However, you need a good reason to switch. Going to the housing office and saying that you want to be in Tower because it’s pretty won’t get you a new room.</p>

<p>Seriously though, give Bates a chance. You haven’t even moved in yet and you want to switch?! Get to know your roommate, meet the people on your floor and in your building. You might end up liking it. If you don’t, you still have three more years to live in Tower or anywhere else on campus.</p>

<p>I lived in Tower for three years and Bates my senior year. I spent summers living in Bates and Freeman each.</p>

<p>There are numerous disadvantages to living in Tower. I was one of the few to have a room that was actually large enough to properly fit all the mandatory furniture provided by the school and not at all removable- most people were stuck stacking bookshelves or putting one in the tiny single closet two people shared. Aside from being grateful for my large corner room (154), I had to put up with a student down the hall whining how the two short students got the large room all year. Also, my hall, 1W, had the largest number of first years of any floor in Tower, 6 doubles worth. Generally, first years are the only social ones on the floor. Living on a floor with upperclasswomen who moved into Tower for the real estate, not to be with their friends, makes you few connections. So living on a floor in Bates as a first year will be better because there are more first years in the dorm. Also, Tower doesn’t have water fountains in the halls. Tower’s windows are not well-insulated, making that cute window seat something you don’t bother with most of the year. The noise in Tower carries, and you hear everything that goes on in Severance and Claflin too. Also, if you overlook the lake, you can smell people’s cigarette smoke in your room even on the fourth floor because of the way the wind blows.</p>

<p>As far as walks go, once you do a walk a couple of times, it stops seeming long, even if the walk IS long (I’ve found this especially true in Cambridge where I’m generally willing to walk up to two miles for something).</p>

<p>So, yes, I was thrilled to live in Tower, but having lived elsewhere, it wasn’t that much better than everywhere else.</p>

<p>And oh yeah: you get two closets in the Bates rooms.</p>

<p>Quite frankly, you are going to move in to Bates and live there for a least a month before you even get to think about changing, so you should probably not even think too much about switching dorms at this point. </p>

<p>I lived in Freeman my first year, Beebe last year, and will be in Tower next year. I would agree with you that Bates, etc. are the less picturesque dorms. However, one AWESOME thing about Freeman and I would think by extension Bates is that there are common rooms and kitchens (that’s two rooms) on every floor, not just one living room for the whole dorms. For all the stereotypes about the new dorms being quiet and filled with overly studious, buzzkill people, we hung out in our common rooms studying, talking, playing games, etc. all the time when I lived in Freeman. I loved this past year in Beebe too, because I had a lot of friends around, but if I wanted to have a casual conversation with them or with my other floormates, we would generally either stand in the hallway or one of you would stand in the doorway of the other’s room. I lived on the same floor as the living room, and people did hang out there, but it was far less intimate than in Freeman where each floor had it’s own dedicated common area. </p>

<p>I also agree that the walk is not a huge deal. I hesitate to give walking times, because everybody’s pace is different, but living in Freeman my walk to the Academic Quad was about the same length as my walk to the Science Center living in Beebe and vice versa. I would think that the walk from Tower to the Science Center would be even further. And living in the new dorms the walk to town is really short. That said, again, when you want to go someplace, the somewhat longer walk is no big deal. I walked from Beebe to the ville to go to Starbucks, etc. at least 4 times a week, which is a comparable length walk to that from the Athletic Center to Bates. (And the walk is not what kept me from going everyday–it was the expense of the Starbucks habit that kept me from going more often!). </p>

<p>And the room size is very nice in the new dorms, especially for the doubles. You get your own closet, built in dresser, built in bookshelves, just generally lots of space for two people. All of my friends complimented my room in Beebe last year for feeling large and being generally neat, but the truth is just like WendyMouse said–it is <em>hard</em> to fit two bookshelves, two dressers, two beds, two desks, two chairs, and two floor lamps into one not very generously sized room (not to mention anything else you might have, like extra lamps and a refrigerator). In looking at the floor plans for Tower, with the caveat that they are drawn only nominally to scale, my single appears to be the same size or if anything bigger than the First-Year double next door to it. And the rooms directly above and below that double (ie, rooms with the same footprint) are singles. So in Tower you very well may be put in a double the same size as many of the upperclasswomen’s singles. That just isn’t the case in Bates, etc. I do agree that hardwood floors are nice, but this past year in Beebe I had quite the time keeping them free of dust bunnies, a problem I just didn’t have in Freeman. </p>

<p>In sum: there are trade-offs for sure, and people who never lived in the New Dorms do tend to make a face when you said you live(d) there, but the New Dorms have plenty going for them, too. Give Bates a chance!</p>

<p>Yup, the singles are basically the same size as the doubles. I don’t know why certain singles got chosen to be double rooms, but they’ve been called “dingles” for that reason.</p>

<p>Oh, I already asked about switching rooms - my problem is that I was concerned how I will match with one rommate, but having three roommates is a bigger concern for me :slight_smile: And I truly hope that everything is going to be fine and I will not want to switch… But if that doesn not happen, what should I do?</p>

<p>If you realize that you cannot get along well with your roommates or there are some other extenuating circumstances, you can talk to your RA to see if there is a way to resolve those issues. If the RA feels there needs to be some sort of action taken (eg. switching rooms, roommates, etc), you all can set up a meeting with your RD. After that the Housing Office can get involved with what rooms are open or have roommate openings.</p>