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Colleges and Universities A-Z Boston College
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<p>I believe that students not in honors are able to take classes with honors students; however, not many of them choose that option. In the honors program, you're given a certain set of classes you need to take with a certain professor (these classes tend to be with other honor students). I dont know about the pace of the program, but there are more intelligent (if you want to call it that) students in the classroom. </p>

<p>Replying to Wayne, I'm a huge Mets fan, but I dont get the games up here. SNY is the only channel that can broadcast the games unless of course Fox or ESPN get the rights to broadcast the game. I watch the gamecast on mlb.com, but I know a few other people who have mlb.tv.</p>

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<p>Funny, I'm a huge Mets fan as well</p>

<p>As well as a diehard NY Giants fan</p>

<p>Right now I watch them on local TV channels - I live in New Jersey</p>

<p>It sucks cause I won't be able to watch any more Mets/Giants games at BC, unless they're nationally televised, which is very very few</p>

<p>Ugh!</p>

<p>I actually never realized this problem until now</p>

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<p>this season i actually got to see every single giants game, i think. all i know is every sunday i watched football ALL DAY while doing homework and put everything down for when the giants were playing.</p>

<p>sorry i dont know about the mets, im a yankees fan.</p>

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<p>^booo....Booooooo</p>

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<p>If i go to BC i can live outside of campus after the first year right? and someone told me BC is really religious... is that true?</p>

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<p>you can choose to live off campus even if you're a freshman, but you probably wont be meeting as many people as you normally would if you lived on campus. most people choose to live on campus, but you can always decide to live off campus. as far as religion goes, BC IS NOT very religious, at least not in my point on view. The only thing close to religion they force you to do is to take theology classes and the mass you go to (optional, but most people go anyway) during orientation. BC does hold mass on sundays, but many people on my floor dont go. I think only one person on my floor goes to mass, but i think he stopped going at the start of the spring semester.</p>

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<p>this season i actually got to see every single giants game, i think. all i know is every sunday i watched football ALL DAY while doing homework and put everything down for when the giants were playing.</p>

<h2>sorry i dont know about the mets, im a yankees fan.</h2>

<p>How do you watch Giants games at BC?</p>

<p>And did you watch Yankee games as well? How?</p>

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<p>What i dont understand is why BC, despite being such a good school, id still so lowly ranked on USnews and businessweek</p>

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<p>US News is a complete garbage ranking - Lehigh isn't even in the Top 50</p>

<p>That alone just shows you their credibility</p>

<p>Everything ranked after 10th in US News makes zero sense</p>

<p>BusinessWeek has BC ranked 14th - that's pretty good</p>

<p>Specifically, financial management at BC is ranked 8th </p>

<p>It is well known BC has a very strong finance department</p>

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<p>What I don't get is why BC CSOM graduates' starting salary is so low</p>

<p>Business week has the starting salary at $50,000 - you would expect it to be a lot higher</p>

<p>Many schools on the list, including lower ranked schools, had higher starting salaries</p>

<p>Is there a reason for this?</p>

<p>Especially when you consider BC is in a city</p>

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<p>if you see the percentage of people who replied to the survey at the top of the page, you'll notice that only 40-50% of graduates replied, whereas most of the other schools had an 80%+ reply percentage. this could be one factor, but im not sure how valid the argument is.</p>

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<p>that would seem to be the only thing that would make sense..... BC compared to the other schools on the list are recruited by pretty much the same companies, so the salaries should be relatively the same.</p>

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<p>^^</p>

<p>But it has Northeastern with a higher starting salary than BC?</p>

<p>How can that be?</p>

<p>BC is obviously the much better school, in the same location</p>

<p>Undergrad</a> - BSchools</p>

<p>Even a state school like Rutgers has a $54,000 starting salary</p>

<p>I don't see how this makes sense</p>

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<p>Dear Lil<em>Wayne</em>Fan : One of my very good friends in the corporate world of Investment Banking here in New York just needed to execute a round of cuts across the board - seasoned and entry level bankers. A recently graduated student from an Ivy League business school (bachelor's degree) was making $60,000 and that was viewed as too much for the budget the bare at this time.</p>

<p>So, some things to think about - First, starting salaries in the $45,000-$55,000 range in the Boston-to-Philadelphia corridor would not be unusual with a fresh-out-of-school business degree. The salaries will be relatively the same across all schools - but the alumni network will be stronger with some than others. For example, one would expect the BC network to be stronger than Rutgers.</p>

<p>Second, there is a spike in salaries in New York, however staffing cutbacks at Merrill, Citi, Lehmans, and Bear will put more people on the street and make first year jobs harder to find. With increased supply of qualified staff and decreased demand from firms for entry level roles, guess what happens? Salaries might compress in this space.</p>

<p>Lastly, the median starting salary column in the table really is showing fairly little difference in schools - some schools lower in the table will have candidates that can top any other numbers. Hiring and salary will eventually come down to the individual and the impression that the individual makes.</p>

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<p>^^^</p>

<p>I understand what you're saying, but how does this convince me whether spending $50,000+ a year at BC for 4 years is worth it or not?</p>

<p>Especially when I can go to Rutgers for only $20,000 a year and supposedly come out making even a higher starting salary? (Rutgers is just an example)</p>

<p>In other words, is the exceptional "alumni network" at BC worth a whole boatload of extra money?</p>

<p>Will I almost be guaranteed a much better job in the future?</p>

<p>Your thoughts?</p>

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<p>I dont think the average salary for BC is correct... it doest seem right....</p>

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<p>lilwaynefan.. most of the giants games were broadcast on fox, which we get at BC. i never remember wanting to see a certain game and not have it on tv. however, my first semester roommate who was from nc always complained that her favorite teams were never on when teams from the NE were instead.</p>

<p>and yankees games i just watched them when they were on. im not a HUGE baseball fan but i definetly follow it. no trouble at all seeing the playoffs</p>

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<p>Dear Lil<em>Wayne</em>Fan : If you do not see a difference between Boston College and Rutgers that justifies a $30,000 per year difference, my advice is that you should not ask your family to spend the extra money. After all, if you do not understand why there is a difference, you will spend four years thinking that you are being "ripped off". My assessment is that Boston College is worth that money and the alumni network is the gift when everything is said, done, and paid.</p>

<p>As for the guarantee of a "better job", the point made before about the New York financial houses still holds : there are no guarantees. Research shows that hard work and individual effort are the key attributes even above the school name.</p>

<p>Ultimately, the BC name is worth more for a very different reason than salary surveys. As the Ivy Leagues continue to turn away more and more tremendous students across America and beyond, a new set of schools will continue to emerge which will rival and perhaps surpass the existing Ivy Elite Eight and others. This set of ten or more schools will develop a new set of Elite Schools, perhaps more in step with the current environment of collegiate needs. My bet is that a Boston College degree while extremely valuable now, will continue to escalate in value over the next ten years.</p>

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<p>Dear Lil<em>Wayne</em>Fan,</p>

<p>The Businessweek's result is not correct, or at least not as close to the what BC found in its internal study in 2006. </p>

<p>Well, this should help you sleep at night if you decided to take BC offer:</p>

<p>Top Jobs for BC grads (from all 4 schools):
1. Accounting/Tax Preparation
2. Consulting Services
3. Investment Banking
4. Financial Services
5. Educational Services
[pg.5]</p>

<p>Top employers (from all 4 schools):
1. Pricewaterhouse Coopers
2. JPMorgan Chase
3. Mass General Hospital
4. Citigroup
5. The Military (what can I say, we are very gun loving)
[pg. 6]</p>

<p>Medien Salary for CSOM: $51,000
25th to 75th for CSOM:$45,000-55,250 (the maximum being $200,000!)
[pg.9]
CSOM working full time: 91%
CSOM grad school: 5%
CSOM volunteer: 1%
CSOM other: 2%
[pg.4]</p>

<p>For more info on CSOM salary go to page.10
<a href="http://www.bc.edu/offices/careers/meta-elements/pdf/2006SurveyReport.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bc.edu/offices/careers/meta-elements/pdf/2006SurveyReport.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>A thing about Northeastern having slightly higher than BC in the Businessweek Survey. They have CO-OPs which means they have school for 5 years. Every year NEU proudly boasts its student high employment rate because of the co-op program. Since those students started working for a fifth year (earning not as much money as those who already graduated and are working for real) they get good starting salary at the places they are working during their co-op. NEU obviously only collects salary data after the students graduated (with 1 year of co-opt) but not before. So it seems higher, but it's not really. A BC student earns more after his/her first year of work without getting pay chump chain while co-opting (and paying them back to NEU)</p>

<p>But hey, if you want to a school with a C or B rating in teaching versus one with an A+, feel free to exercise your right.</p>

<p>P.S.
Here's good article about how good it is to be young and desirable in the job market:</p>

<p>"Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu says the next 10 years will be an employee-driven market, because of a whole host of demographics issues, from boomers leaving the workforce to fewer Generation Yers being interested in corporate life. Its consulting group released a survey of firms this week that identified a shortage of skilled and talented workers as their greatest concern.</p>

<p>Young people are in such high demand right now that they start to look sort of savvy when sources such as MTV report only 17 percent of Generation Y is worried about the economy. Take Renee Glowacki. She has an entry level job in Boston, which can't be easy given the cost of living in the city, but she is optimistic things will get better for her."</p>

<p>Job</a> hopping an option for young people - The Boston Globe</p>

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<p>Lil<em>Wayne</em>Fan.... if u look at the 2006 Survey Report investment-banker graduates have a average salary of 70,000..... thats what i'm planning on to do =)....</p>

<p>My mother's friend's daughter who just graduated from Cornell and now has a job from Morgan Stanley has a salary of 95k.... and she said her bonus at the end of the year was double her salary..... well thats only if the economy is doing well.... if the economy is what it is now you probably wont get any bonus.</p>