BC vs. UNC vs. USC

@CADREAMIN I do like USC and it would ideal as far as transfer credit goes, because I am from OCC. I am just worried, because I want to work on the east coast and Marshall only sends about 10% of students there.

That’s hundreds of students. Why not you?

@privatebanker I am not sure, if people simply choose to stay on the west coast, or if it’s hard to get job offers from the east. I think UNC and BC have lots of recruiting events by firms like GS, while USC doesn’t (at least for IB).

I’d pick between USC and UNC (leaning towards USC).

I don’t now much about that part of USC.

@JenniferClint Do you mind giving a little bit of insight?

I think USC is a school on the rise because of how much philanthropic money it is attracting. UNC is a very solid university with a lot of great history.

@Vincent1997 ,S loved both UNC and USC but did not end up applying to UNC for the reason you mentioned (no guarantee of admit to the business school) plus OOS costs would be higher than merit from a private university like USC. He ended up getting merit at USC but chose another school in the end. Part of the reason was that he realized he did not want to commit to living in Southern California after graduation. Also, it was not the strongest fit after he spent a night there during interview weekend. Other schools did a better job with overnight visits. The University Village is impressive on the outside but less conducive to meeting lots of people as compared with a regular dorm, based on the suite arrangements. It’s not that you can’t meet people if you room at the Village. It’s just a little less easy as a dorm such as Birnkrant.

Costs are also very high (from rent to insurance to gas to you name it) in Los Angeles.That would be true of Boston as well. I think you are smart to consider what your ultimate goal is in terms of living and working after four years. Not everyone knows the answer but in your case, you seem to be pretty certain about working on the East Coast. Marshall Business school is strongest in L.A. and Asia. Many on CC are rah rah about the Trojan alumni network but I don’t think it rings true nearly like in Southern Cal. I would go with your instincts and choose either UNC or BC. If you are like my S, you’ll lean towards the school that is offering you a sure admit into the major you would like to study and where you click with the student body. You can take a chance on UNC and getting into the B school. If you don’t get into the business school, you could probably major in econ or something else. Raleigh would have the second best weather of the choices :slight_smile: but BC offers you the direct admit to the business school in the part of the country that you would like to ultimately work.

BC actually does pretty well in Wall St recruiting. I’d call them a semi target. They also do well in the mutual fund business and finance in general. Boston is a major finance center and all of the major IB firms have local offices as well as recruit to NYC. Go on Linkedin and look at the alumni. Also go on Wall St Oasis and search for BC. I think it’s recruited as heavily if not more than UNC.

Both great schools in great places.

Where do you want to live? East coast has many different flavors.

I have a kid getting a business degree this week, & I have become very aware of how huge it is to go to college near where you want to work. Internships, interviews, networking, professors’ influence, knowledge of the job market…EVERYTHING is easier if it isn’t far away. So going to USC when you know you want to end up on the opposite coast seems really silly. Especially considering you might have 2 comparable alternatives.

@Nomorelurker Thanks so much for that response! This is truly helpful. I am sure that lots of other students will read this thread and appreciate such information as well. I live in OC, so I am quite knowledgeable of the living expenses haha I’d think that Boston is slightly cheaper thou? Yes, you are right, I am definitely happier knowing, that I am guaranteed to attend the Business school.

@rickle1 I think I would want to live near Virginia/Maryland. If the job offers are good enough, then also NY.

UNC will place well in the DC area as well as Research Triangle and NYC. Looks like a good choice.

The BC business program has definitely gotten a lot more prestigious in the past decade with a lot of students who graduated there that I know who’ve gotten offers at Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, etc. and a decent amount of exposure in NYC. It was also ranked #2 or 3 by Bloomsburg for best undergraduate business programs. It also has some really passionate fans and a great party scene. The only problem for me personally is that it’s not closer to downtown Boston like other schools. I would not count out BC if you get in, but that is just my opinion. A well rounded education like BC is definitely something I’d admire.

I also like the thought of BC since he wants east coast. Boston is such a great city.

@Vincent1997 Im a bit confused where you are hearing that the Carroll School is less prestigious than UNC, especially in Business and even more especially in Finance (their strongest and most prestigious program by far). I’ve definitely seen a number of BC grads working in good groups in IB (among other things) on Wall Street, but much less so from UNC.

I would say that BC is a highly targeted recruiting school for BofA, Citi, UBS, DB, and Barclays, and a moderately targeted recruiting school for GS, JPM, and MS. Im not sure about Credit Suisse. BC also seems to get good coverage from the quality middle market and boutique firms, though the elite boutiques like to recruit from the top business ivys and Stanford.

Also, you should know that pay is standard in most banking jobs (but especially in investment banking) regardless of school. My undergrad was at a non HYPS target and I was offered essentially the same deal as all the other analysts regardless of whether they came out of Harvard and Penn or UMass. I wonder if some of the reason you are hearing bias towards UNC is that they have almost 2x the undergrads coming out and probably are more vocal in BC vs UNC threads.

That said, my friend who went to BC has often mentioned that if he had not liked the Carroll school he probably would have transferred… take that as you will.

@t12inc Yes, you might be right about UNC having a bigger following. I just googled stuff like “BC vs. UNC Business” and the comments were almost always either “they are equal,” or “UNC is better.” Anyhow, I’ve decided to probably attend BC, if I get in; however, I want to see my transfer credit first … and then there is the issue that it’s about $20,000 more a year, but considering that UNC doesn’t offer guaranteed admission to business, I believe that it’s worth the expense. After all, I do get some Private school benefits as well.

By the way, do you know anything about USC and banking?

I think these schools are close enough in overall undergrad quality that you should decide based on fit and cost – not at all on rep (and they’re fairly close there too) – and BC seems like the best fit for you. If there is not a large cost difference negatively affecting the attractiveness of BC, I would put it at the top – again, considering your wish to work in Banking/Finance on the East Coast.

One last question. Between the three, if location didn’t matter, which one would you say is the best? One of my ideas was to work for the government for two-three years, then get my MBA and then move on to IB. Is it advisable to not go into IB right away? I think if I do it this way, then my bachelor location wouldn’t matter.

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