Before you choose a school for your child

Hello Fellow Parents!

This is such an exciting time of year as the acceptances start rolling in. The long, tortuous wait is over and soon you and your child will be sitting down to decide which campus is best for them.

As my child is set to graduate in a couple months, I wanted to share with you the things I’ve learned -and wish I knew as we mulled over campuses 4 years ago.

I really went into the college application process fully armed with knowledge, or so I thought. I read the books on writing essays, the “how to get into a great college books”, I studied up on AP classes, and extracurricular activities. I ended up learning so much, I was coaching my friend’s children through their process, too. However, the things that I learned while my daughter was IN college, for my family at least, ended up being crucial things we really should have thought of well before she SIRed.

The first thing, that ended up causing a lot of grief, was that I did not familiarize myself with the campus disability offices of the schools where she had been accepted. Don’t believe for one second that just because they offer student disability services that they are equipped to offer the special attention, or will understand the needs of your child. I have discovered that while most campuses seem to be superb at offering assistance to people with physical disabilities, that they are woefully unprepared to offer assistance to students with mental, emotional, or learning disabilities. Have a broken leg? We’ll come pick you up! In a wheelchair? We’ll pick you up! Are you blind? Deaf? We have special assistance for you. But if you are manic-depressive, schizophrenic, suffer from crippling anxiety, are on the autism spectrum, or have ADHD, then they will make you fill out massive amounts of forms, provide ten thousand documents, come in for special meetings with their disability staff, and stand on your head and bark 3 times.

I spoke to someone who has been in the college level education system for over 30 years and he said the reason behind what I just said is two-fold: First of all, colleges receive all sorts of money for offering programs to the physically disabled. This allows them to pat themselves on the back for being moral heroes, while also avoiding ADA lawsuits. But as far as emotional, mental or learning disabilities, they don’t receive much funding for that, so the schools really want to be careful that they aren’t giving assistance to just anyone who says they are stressed out, etc.

If your child has been diagnosed with emotional or learning disabilities, get on the phone NOW to every college they have been accepted to and get to know the campus disability office. Find out now before you SIR how -and if- they can provide the needs your child requires. If they require a 9 mile paper trail to help your child, you’ll be glad you got the ball rolling on that now, and not 2 weeks before you drop Junior off.

My daughter received 6 acceptances; most to were schools in the UC system, and 2 other were private. She really wasn’t excited about the smaller schools and zeroed in on the UC campuses. She ultimately chose one that was 500 miles away from us, because she loved the campus. We told her to go for it if that’s where she wanted to be. What we didn’t factor in, and this is another thing you need to think about, is how much it would cost to cart her back and forth to this campus 500 miles away from us. Now, someone on this site once accused me of exaggerating, or being too frivolous with our expenses, but it literally cost us $900 to $1000 every time we picked her up or dropped her off. I’m not referring to her coming home for holidays, I mean the physical act of dropping her off for school and picking her up in June.

Why did it cost us so much money? Because we have an older car, without enough room, so we would have to rent a minivan. Someone suggested renting a smaller, cheaper car, but there is no way that would have worked. The minivan we rented was packed FULL with a fridge, microwave, bedding, clothes for an entire year, a printer, books, a TV, tons of paper towels (many UC campuses are “green” and don’t provide paper towels in their dorm bathrooms) and incidentals. There is no way we could have fit it all in a 4 door sedan. Then because we just spent 9 hours on the road, we would spend the night in town, and because it was near a beach, a total dump room still cost $200 on a Saturday night… Then you throw in $250 for gas, and meals along the way, and poof, you have just dropped a lot of money for doing nothing more than getting your kid to college. Just something to keep in mind.

Because my family was going through a horrendous time financially, we ended up having to have our daughter transfer from her school in Northern California, to something closer to home in Southern California. This is when I realized that just because all these schools are under the UC umbrella, does not mean they operate the same, and the school she transferred to became my worst nightmare when trying to deal with their disability office. The school up north was ah-mazing, kind, efficient, understanding. But the one she transferred to had the warmth of a labor camp. I was literally in the process of moving out of the house we lost, while trying to provide the necessary paperwork to the new campus, and working with those people was more of a nightmare then losing our house. It was that bad!

The final thing I would also recommend to you while perusing those acceptances, is to look at your child’s ultimate goal. If they have dreams of graduate school, then a big state school may not be the place for them. For instance, my daughter wants to go to law school, but as we review the application process for law schools, they all want letters of recommendation from college professors. It seems to be this way with many graduate schools. But when your kid is in a school where classes only last 10 weeks, and there are 200 kids in the class, how do you go about forming a strong enough relationship with a professor for them to recommend you for anything? It’s a joke, and in retrospect, my daughter does wish she would have gone to a smaller school.

If your goal is just to get Junior a piece of paper (and there is nothing wrong with that), then a large, state school is the perfect way to go, but if Junior already knows he wants to get his PhD, then a smaller school where the kids have a better chance of bonding with their professor may be a better fit for his future goals.

Sorry this is so long, but like I said, these are the things I wished I had known to look into or think about before we excitedly SIRed.

Good luck to you and your college student. And congrats on those acceptances!

Thanks for sharing your student’s experiences.

It is good of you to mentioned this. Many of us here do not have a child with the struggles you mentioned and we are not aware of the problems you bring up.

I hope everything ultimately works out for her. God Bless!

I hope it all turns out excellent for your daughter. My daughter has a bit of hearing loss. She is doing dual enrollment at a community college. I went with her to talk to the cc disabilities office. They went out of their way to offer my daughter everything. We turned down most of it but they were willing to put a note taker, record the class etc. For my daughter it is more sitting near the front/near the person speaking and letting them know that if she occasionally asks for something repeated it is legit. It helps that the classes are all under 30 at the most. In the end my daughter got the forms signed the first semester but didn’t turn them in and didn’t bother the second semester. What I learned is that even when students qualify for services it is up to them to utilize them rather than in high school where the 504 coordinator told all the teachers.

Distance is an issue, but just one decision that has to be made. I went to school 1000 miles away. On an airplane with my 2 suitcases. No minivan, no TV, no printer. No lifetime supply of paper towels. One of my daughter’s does the same, and doesn’t even fill the two suitcases. Other daughter goes to school 150 miles away and the first year took 6 duffels full of stuff, and now is down to one. No extra stuff at all. She has even ditched the the small box of extras like a desk lamp and alarm. Just uses what is provided.

My daughter who goes to a midsized school (10,000 undergrads) knows her professors pretty well. It is up to the kid to forge a relationship. My nephew is at a school with 27000 undergrads and knows his professors, and works for one.

OP- thank you for sharing your experiences. You sound like awesome parents.

However, to the Newbies reading this- you do NOT need a van full of stuff. My kids went to colleges within driving distance, but there were kids showing up off a Greyhound bus from a thousand miles away with a suitcase, a duffle bag, and a backpack with their laptop.

I don’t think my kids used an entire roll of paper towels in one year at college, let alone multiple rolls. None of them shlepped a fridge, a microwave, or a printer (the colleges all had printers set up in various locations.)

My kids dealt with the professor/recommendation problem via their work. One edited a professor’s book and did fact-checking for several articles. That’s a lot of quality time. Another worked on a specific research grant- even more quality time, and then stayed that summer to continue working fulltime.

If your kid is on a big campus, by sophomore year he/she should be qualified for various jobs that professors have to staff… footnoting, fact-checking, editorial, research, grant writing, etc. That’s one way to maintain a one-to-one relationship even in a class with 800 kids in it-- get yourself a job.

I wanted to add – I went to school 600 miles away from my parent’s house. My parents drove up once at the beginning of the 4 years to drop off my bags and mostly to see the campus with their own eyes, and once at the end to pick up all that I had accumulated. In the interim, such as when I went off to internships and a year abroad, I had friends store my things. If I couldn’t find friends to do this, I would ship home the books and so forth, and carry the rest on the plane.

I also went abroad for a year with just my carry-on bags.

While I empathize with much of what you wrote, I can only add that my D and I were able to load up an SUV that I borrowed from a friend one time with everything she needed for the year. A week later she did a run to Walmart and got the additional things she realized were essential. We rented a storage unit last summer and it worked so well, we’ll continue to to do that each summer. She shared it with three other students at a cost of about $75/each. No schlepping bedding, winter gear (clothes and sleds/skis,etc) back and forth. Well worth the cost. Another cost saver is free shipping with Amazon student. You can literally find everything you would ever need on Amazon and in most cases, the best price. She even gets some of her coursebooks on Amazon ! She comes home with a backpack for the long weekends (TurkeyDay) and a small suitcase for the winter break. Our biggest expense freshman year was getting her back and forth via bus/train/plane. She now has a car at school and drives herself, cost = $30 gas and tolls each way of about 250 miles.

What does SIR stand for?

My daughter went to college in Massachusetts while we live in CA. She took a large carry on bag and check a suitcase on the plane. She had a laptop PC that we bought for her before she went to college and everything else she needed we bought back there; winter clothing, printer, etc. She would travel home with her laptop and the carry on bag. Of course it still cost a lot for the airfare, but the point is that you can plan the move to college without needing the moving van.

She stored her stuff with friends that were local after her freshman year and after that lived off campus in an apartment that we rented for the entire year (you couldn’t get just 9 month rentals) so no need to move stuff.

SIR stands for Statement of Intent to Register

Agree on the storage discussion. My D1 shared a storage unit for the summer with some other students. I went to drop her off and picked her up with stuff 4 years later.

Regarding disability services, agree it is good to ask on campus and here on CC. We found that because we had a long record of testing going back to 2nd grade & also recently, my kid didn’t have trouble getting disability services when she did get to college.

You aren’t wrong about the references, especially if your kid is the type who prefer to blend in. But classes usually do get smaller junior & senior year. And profs can be surprisingly willing to write letters – I remember gathering my courage many years ago at my large state U to ask a prof I had for one class for a letter near graduation. Like your D, I had not realized I would need them. He could not have been more gracious and encouraging about my letter and career goals, and I still am grateful 30 years later (thanks, Dennis Severance @ UMich!). It is hard to ask, but your D likely does have a few profs who know her.

Had 1 kid go across the county and 1 kid go 400 miles away. For the across the country kiddo, the first yr we took 8 duffles worth of stuff and that did not even include the bedding and mini fridge and bookcase and lamp etc etc that we had bought and picked up out there. At the end of the yr, she mailed as much as she could home (quite expensive; there are services that do this, I think it weighed 70 pounds) and left a lot behind at school for others to take. After that, she learned her lesson and took 2 duffles and a carry one for the rest of the years. Lesser amounts of stuff could be stashed at people’s places over the summers. Was much more manageable.

Kid 2 could be dropped off with a SUV. Because there was so much room in the car, he continues to take way more than necessary. People’s stuff tends to grow to fill the space available.

I do agree with the op that most kids will tend to a get a more personalized LOR from a small college than a large one.

Love the rental storage idea.

Yes you can save some money by not visiting or having your student come home often. However for a student with health or other issues, that visit from a parent may make a big difference. Although, my daughter was only a 4-5 hour drive or train ride away, an overnight visit was expensive (hotel, parking in a big city or costly Amtrack ticket). Yet, on a couple of occasions, I dropped everything and visited her because she needed me there for support due to a health issue. You never know what can happen to your child during their 4 years away (I know of many kids who had health issues during this time - read this forum - mono, depression, etc.) If traveling to visit would be truly cost-prohibitive, then maybe you shouldn’t select that school.(and remember when you have to plan a visit at the last minute it is impossible to get a bargain!)

Your thread title is horrible, the post is good. You are advising your HS senior, buts/he is the one attending college and should be choosing the school, not you. Some kids need a lot of parental input, especially when dealing with issues such as yours. I do agree you need to check things out and not rely on what “looks good on paper”. You also need to consider logistics of getting from home to school- time and costs. Valuable lessons learned that you are passing on.