berk or ucla?

<p><a href="http://www.physics.ucsb.edu/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.physics.ucsb.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>UCSB Physics Dept received 4 Nobel Prizes since 1998
quite amazing.(better than Berkeley ?)</p>

<p>Walter Kohn 1998
Alan Heeger 2000
Herbert Kroemer 2000
David Gross 2004
And Dr. Nakamura will get it as well.</p>

<p>Hey, I noticed you took the fake town out of your profile. Your credibility is sky high!</p>

<p>a question thats a bit off-topic, but is there Aerospace Engineering(AE) studies in the Mechanical Engineering(ME) major over at Cal?</p>

<p>Yes, there is. And cotodecasa, who cares? There are plenty of Berkeley physicist deserving of the Nobel Prize. That's the thing- they could give out about 5 more a year to catch up, and in maybe 20 to 30 years, most of the major accomplishments would be covered of the pasy 50 years. What's the total count? But really, I don't care, and don't know, and am not going to waste any more time on it. I'm satisfied eating dinner with my lowly physics professor who didn't get a nobel prize yet.</p>

<p>Hell, I'm in line to receive a nobel prize in physics and the only thing I did here was get an A- and B+ in introductory physics.</p>

<p>In addition, in response to the original thread, neither. Go to UCSB where you can get thrown into research right away and have a professor mentoring you. For awesome.</p>

<p>Liberal, being the genius test-taker that you are, I'm surprised you got an A- and B+. in introductory physics. I'm genuinely surprised. </p>

<p>And to cotodecasa: I got into UCLA as well, but my dad told me I couldn't go because "it's not that good." So I didn't really have an option...</p>

<p>I was premed before and didn't like it. Hence my career change to lawyer which I am for awesome at. And for your information I got A's in the ochem series but a minuses in the other science series because they were too easy and bored me and I have a crappy work ethic. O chem has an easier curve for me because tests have a larger inherent skill component versus just a hard-work. Ochem problems = reasoning and memorization problems = law. Ah the beauty of rules.</p>

<p>Anyways, UCSB for the win!</p>

<p>
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I got into UCLA as well, but my dad told me I couldn't go because "it's not that good." So I didn't really have an option...

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<p>Hahah, I love uninformed parents making decisions for their children. It warms the frozen cockles of my heart.</p>

<p>Need, </p>

<p>I am an Asian parent.
I graduated from Stanford . But my son chose UCLA over
Stanford and Cal. </p>

<p>He is now at U of Arizona Law.(full ride )
again chose over prestigious law schools.</p>

<p>FYI</p>

<p>Future Technology</p>

<p>CNSI is a research center run jointly by UCLA and UC Santa Barbara. CNSI was established in 2000 with $100 million from the State of California and an additional $250 million in federal research grants and industry funding. Its mission is to encourage university collaboration with industry and enable the rapid commercialization of discoveries in nanosystems.</p>

<p>CNSI members, who are on the faculty at UCLA and UCSB, have received numerous prestigious awards, including the Feynman Prize in Nanotechnology and hold memberships in several national science societies, including the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Engineering, the Royal Society of London, the Royal Academy of Engineering and the German Academy of Natural Sciences.</p>

<p>FYI</p>

<p>Nanocomposite Demand Increasing </p>

<p><a href="http://www.industryweek.com/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=11578&SectionID=4%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.industryweek.com/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=11578&SectionID=4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>March 8, 2006 -- Declining prices of nanomaterials and composites will contribute to growing demand for nanocomposites by 2020, according to a recent study by Cleveland-based The Freedonia Group.</p>

<p>The research firm forecasts demand for nanocomposites will increase from 154 million pounds in 2005 to 344 million pounds by 2010. By 2020 demand for nanocomposites is expected to grow to more than 7 billion pounds with a value nearing $15 billion.</p>

<p>"I graduated from Stanford . But my son chose UCLA over
Stanford and Cal."</p>

<p>I smell something. Smells like...someone's pants are on fire. Although it would make sense that a stanford grad can't even spell the name of their hometown.</p>

<p>"Hence my career change to lawyer which I am for awesome at."</p>

<p>Yeah, with awesome sentence structure like that you are for awesome going to be for awsome a lawyer!</p>

<p>Ask your Stanford Friend if you have any. I will tell him/her the information only Stanford Alumni can access on Stanford online.</p>

<p>Wait a sec...</p>

<p>Is CotoDeCasa a new name for shi.takirimusume, the old UCLA is better than everything troll from 2003?</p>

<p>Coto, why would anyone believe anything you say? You can't even spell the name of your hometown. Never mind stanford, I'm not even convinced you went to high school.</p>

<p>Dude, he's an old member from 2003, I swear it. Check out this link:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?4/13457%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?4/13457&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>What makes a school the “best” school?</p>

<p>Some will argue that entrance statistics (SAT/ACT, GPA, top 10%, etc) are most important.
Some will argue graduation statistics (retention%, grad school acceptees, etc).
Some will argue Funding and Research dollars;
Others will argue Awards/Resumes (number of x-fellows, y-scholars, other awards) of the faculty. </p>

<p>Sources? There are numerous ranking sites: USNEWS, NSF, THES, etc.</p>

<p>As a group, you probably will not come to agreement on which statistic, or which source is "the best" to be used to determine which school is "the best". </p>

<p>To confuse things even more, there are at least three additional statistics that are relevant.
(1) What percent of lecture/discussion time is via/with a Prof -vs- TA/GS.<br>
(2) Access to Graduate Labs as an Undergrad.
(3) Access to Prof as an Undergrad. </p>

<p>We have visited many schools, and have seen a noticeable difference in the "types" of labs that are available to Undergrads (from one school to the next, and from Undergrad to Graduate Labs). </p>

<p>In discussions with Admissions Officers, Faculty, and Students, we have heard subtle yet distinct differences on the amount of time, and ease of access to the Prof. (I have read postings of students who insist that they are able to gain face time with a professor at certain top schools, yet the tone in their note made it appear that it was not a trivial task. From our discussions with students at different top schools, some seem to have easy access to a Prof, and others do not. If that is important). </p>

<p>I will ask a rhetorical question. If "your" school has the top 10 Engineering Profs in the country, but you are only able to meet them, learn from them, as a Grad student, then what benefit was it to you as an Undergrad. Also, if your school has the best research labs, and research dollars in the country, but you really only have access to them as a Grad student, then one could argue that those top research facilities may not have benefited you personally - as an Undergrad.</p>

<p>I think we will all agree that most “top” scholars go on to Grad school. And, where you went for your BS is ‘almost’ meaningless (after you have received your advanced degree). Consider this: when you look at the resume of a Prof, you probably focus on where they received their PhD, and not where they received their BS. I do not mean to undermine the importance of the BS degree, but down the road it becomes less meaningful (in the same way that which high school you attended become somewhat meaningless after you have been accepted to college).</p>

<p>I do not say this to criticize any one of you, or any school. I think all of the top schools are great. You can get an excellent education from any of the schools. Most importantly, you call will probably all transition into great careers from any of the top schools.</p>

<p>Except Berkeley because Berkeley ignores you, gives you random grades, and is filled with mediocre undergrads who think they're hot ***** but are so stupid you can't believe they are able to maintain the minimum cognitive functions necessary for breathing.</p>

<p>Hey, if it isn't liberalcensor! New name, same tired argument.</p>

<p>You mentioned who would choose UCSD over Berkeley? Lots of students do. In fact, many of the kids I know who live here in the shadows of the campus would rather go to UCSD. The academics are just as good and the atmosphere is better. All you need is one more homeless person panhandling in your dorm (happens daily), or the local ambience of Oakland and Berkeley to make you look elsewhere</p>