Berkeley Engineering as selective as MIT

For 2016,

MIT 7.9%
Berkeley COE 8.4%

http://mitadmissions.org/apply/process/stats
http://engineering.berkeley.edu/about/facts-and-figures

(Interesting note,Berkeley engineering 27% women)

Not sure that it makes a difference, but the acceptance rate for MIT for this year was actually 7.1%, according to the stats they released on pi day,

Don’t you think this is misleading? I’m going to guess that the caliber of students applying to MIT is higher so the acceptance rates aren’t comparable.

I think generally “less” qualified students apply to Berkeley where that is not the case at MIT. I got into both (specifically the EECS program), but I got an early acceptance at Berkeley while I was deferred EA for MIT and got in RD

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@CA94309 - Is this something to be proud of?

@sneharams I think the new Dean of Engineering at MIT would find this comment interesting!

If you scan CC you will see many kids accepted to MIT but were rejected by Berkeley, by using your logic, Berkeley students are better qualified that MIT students.

MIT and Berkeley Engineering are highly ranked engineering schools, so they are likely to have similarly qualified students applying.

@coolweather - Just stating the facts.

Two ancillary issues:

In-state UCB applicants, for some disciplines, have a tougher time being admitted than OOS applicants, because CA needs the $$ from OOS tuition. That drives the acceptance rate down for the coveted UCB COE slots. That is, lots of CA kids are being rejected for monetary reasons, not because of academic qualifications.

“If you scan CC you will see many kids accepted to MIT but were rejected by Berkeley”

I wonder how many of those kids accepted by MIT, but rejected by UCB, are CA residents.

MIT is private and desires gender balance. I doubt that UCB can legally discriminate based on gender. The admit rate for women MIT applicants is roughly twice that for men. If you look at the CDS, the MIT admit rate for men is only around 6%. The same gender bias (favoring women applicants) holds for Caltech and Harvey Mudd.

Just looked it up now, to be precise… The 2015-2016* Common Data Set for MIT shows:

6.1% admit rate for men
13.3% admit rate for women

So, it is significantly harder, statically, for a man to be admitted to MIT than to UCB COE, unless you are a CA resident, in which case the reverse might be true. (I haven’t seen the stats for UCB COE, in-state vs OOS. Has anyone?)

  • The 2016-2017 CDS doesn't appear to have been released yet

Here’s an article on the UC in-state vs OOS controversy for coveted majors. There are also CC threads on this topic.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article75676617.html

The point is that there is a lot more to it than just:

“MIT 7.9%
Berkeley COE 8.4%”

Berkeley is a great school.