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"The difference in prestige between the two schools is as much as that of Harvard and Stanford."
Is this true for Engineering?
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No, it's not. Berkeley is way stronger in Engineering than UCLA. It simply depends on the major.</p>
<p>LaxAttack: I plan on going to grad school. Would the school I choose really make a difference?</p>
<p>I'm also having trouble deciding between Cal and UCLA. How about Communications? How does Mass Communications at Berkeley compare with Communication Studies at UCLA? </p>
<p>I've heard that the program at UCLA is much stronger than Berkeley. Is this true? Does it really matter which university I decide to go to?</p>
<p>dont ask Lax, hes going to ucla, and will have a biased opinion.</p>
<p>Blah, I should've rephrased my post. Anyone could answer my question.</p>
<p>Does the prestige of Berkeley really make a difference when applying to grad school?</p>
<p>No. What matters is how you stack up to your 10,000+ peers.</p>
<p>MaryTwee- Mass Comm here at Cal is viewed as a joke major. It's not taken seriously, and thought of as the last resort for Haas rejects. Although these are just stereotypes, the major is not at all rigorous and not many intelligent students go this route. It's usually a secondary major along with poli sci or whatever.</p>
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Does the prestige of Berkeley really make a difference when applying to grad school?
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Not compared to someone coming from UCLA. They'll look at your GPA.</p>
<p>For example:
UCLA 3.3
Berkeley 3.3
UCSD 3.8</p>
<p>The person coming from UCSD will look the most attractive, all resumes being equal.</p>
<p>When comparing UC Berkeley to Chico State, there's a huge difference in terms of prestige, obviously.</p>
<p>addy, is sociology a joke there too? would you say its relatively easy to do both mass comm + sociology? (as in double major or minor)</p>
<p>Why is mass comm a joke? It seems cool to me.</p>
<p>I'm wondering the same thing. Comm. Studies at UCLA is super competitive to get into (~15% acceptance rate), and from what I've heard, it's highly regarded. I don't know if I want to end up being at Cal and be seen as a "joke." </p>
<p>mojojojo: I don't know if this helps at all, but I emailed one of the Mass Comm. advisors at Berkeley and she told me it's very possible to double major--some students even triple major--because the program is so interdisciplinary and overlaps with other areas, including sociology.</p>
<p>i wanted to major in mass comm if i was going to berkeley, so i dont know why people are saying its a joke or something.. :confused: maybe its because the school is so good/competitive at everything that something that seems "easy" is taken as a joke.</p>
<p>Only the engineering and science jerks think like that :p</p>
<p>"(I know, the same can be said for most of Cal's programs)...don't know much about UCLA's."</p>
<p>You do realize that you will have to face "snobby" people for the rest of your life.... you should get use to it now.</p>
<p>well if that's what you really want to major in than by all means do it. you should maybe talk to some mass comm students as I honestly don't know anything about the major except what I've randomly heard. Besides Berkeley is full of Hass Holes who think everyone else is inferior, which I suspect is where the majority of the mass comm hate comes from. And as for the science/engg majors, well their classes are a lot harder and they tend to come in contact with more smart/driven students (along with some crazy people who live and breathe class). The humanities at Berkeley are not as prestigious and I'm just not impressed with a lot of my classes/peers.</p>
<p>I don't know about sociology here, I do know that soc 1 is the easiest class here at berkeley. I'm kinda of biased against soc in general, as many people have told me it's much better to pursue anthropology but I'm interested in neither so I've never given it a lot of thought.</p>
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Pardon me for being so obtuse, but what am I missing? I find both sites rather comparable.
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<p>Are you kidding me?</p>
<p>Berkeley's has a What Can I Do With a Major In...? section:
<a href="http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/Major.stm%5B/url%5D">http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/Major.stm</a></p>
<p>Which shows the statistics of different majors such as salaries, different job placements, and placement into graduate school while UCLA's career website does not. And why not? Does UCLA not have the resources to gather this type of information? I think UCLA does and why such information is not gathered and released seems suspicious to me.</p>
<p>And both career sites are definitely not the same, as UCLA's is lacking much more in content.</p>
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Which shows the statistics of different majors such as salaries, different job placements, and placement into graduate school while UCLA's career website does not. And why not?
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<p>I honestly do not see how a person can use whether the school released such information as the basis for his argument on how reputable and credible a school is. Lots of schools do not release such info, especially at undergraduate level:</p>
<p>Harvard
Princeton
Yale
MIT
Dartmouth</p>
<p>These are some of the schools that do not release such info. Matter of fact, it's very rare that we get to encounter such detailed stat (who employed how many of which major for certain salary figure, etc) like Berkeley's.</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification and the direct link, Tiberius. I was just assuming UCLA posted that same info, but I guess they don't. That very info is one of the reasons I've been eying Berk for the past 3 years!</p>
<p>I agree with dhl3. I also think that the numbers are not that accurate. From what I've heard, the numbers come from students who report back. Many do not, nor are they required to state the truth.</p>
<p>I would not use median salary or career generalizations of other students as an indicator of the quality of the institution.</p>
<p>Dhl3, actually, dartmouth does release that info... </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Ecsrc/%5B/url%5D">http://www.dartmouth.edu/~csrc/</a></p>
<p>ps. to anyone actually listening to dhl3, hes going to ucla, so uh, that says it all.</p>
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hes going to ucla, so uh, that says it all.
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<p>says it all about what? What's your point?</p>
<p>that you are biased. You didnt need for me to tell you that, did you? lol</p>