<p>this cal vs ucla stuff is ridiculous. they're both great schools. the average income difference coming out of them for any given major must seriously be like $3k or something insignificant like that. just go to whichever school you think you'll fit better in... and STOP TRASHING OTHER PEOPLE'S SCHOOLS. it's retarded.</p>
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that you are biased. You didnt need for me to tell you that, did you? lol
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<p>and you aren't?
I'm sorry but you may be wrong in thinking that you are some exceptional being immune to this whole biasedness.</p>
<p>I am not thinking or saying anything. I am just correcting some misinformation on this thread...</p>
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I am not thinking or saying anything
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<p>Actually you are saying quite a bit. By calling off all the prospective UCLA students with your "biased" argument and not saying a single thing about what what Berkeley-ites has to say, it tells quite a bit about your mindset. You may not want to admit this but you are one of the most biased person in this thread :)</p>
<p>Well, i found nothing wrong to say about berkeley cuz their site had some good info! what would you like to me say? "oh hell no!!! those numbers are made up"? lol</p>
<p>Plus, i am on the fence about whether or not im going to ucla or berk, so I dont know!</p>
<p>guys stop it. everybody is biased.</p>
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For your major, antropology, it really doesn't matter. If I was an engineering or business major I would take Berkeley no questions asked. In your case it seems like you should go to the university that you enjoy the most. If you like Cal's atmosphere/campus/surroundings better then LA then hit it up. If not come down to socal. The <em>prestige</em> involved in a school only applies to certain areas, with grad/med/law school being the most prevelant and bus/eng undergrad next in line. - LaxAttack
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<p>As far as my reading comprehension goes I could not find a single phrase in his post that points to any kind of biased or "cal-hatred"-ness. He clearly pointed out that certain programs were hands-down superior over another (which was actually made in favor of the school you're such a fan of!) and the only "anti-Cal"-ish statement made was the part where he mentioned that Cal's prestige will not matter much in other areas of study.</p>
<p>Now let's see the unbiased response you gave:</p>
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dont ask Lax, hes going to ucla, and will have a biased opinion.
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<p>Which only leads me to conclude that either 1.) You have serious problem with reading comprehension (due to the fact that you completely missed his point) or 2.) You are just naturally biased against UCLA (so biased that you did not even bother reading his post). I'm guessing it's more toward the latter reason which only makes sense as to why you had to leave such "unbiased" post of
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ucla tries too hard to try to beat cal.
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in one of the UCLA threads in the board.</p>
<p>Let's continue.</p>
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I honestly do not see how a person can use whether the school released such information as the basis for his argument on how reputable and credible a school is. Lots of schools do not release such info, especially at undergraduate level:</p>
<p>Harvard
Princeton
Yale
MIT
Dartmouth</p>
<p>These are some of the schools that do not release such info. Matter of fact, it's very rare that we get to encounter such detailed stat (who employed how many of which major for certain salary figure, etc) like Berkeley's. - ME
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<p>This is another one of the "problematic" post that you found so dearly offensive enough for you to bluntly call me biased. If there has been a misunderstanding let me clarify what my intent of that post was.</p>
<p>In the post above my cited post (Tiberius), the poster had made it seem as if UCLA's reputation and credibility is questionable based solely on the fact that the school did not release the detailed info as Berkeley did. This I found ridiculous (due to obvious reason that I explained in the cited post) and was merely making my argument of NOT whether UCLA is better than Cal or not (none of the people here has made any claim like that), but of whether it is ok to make such claim based on such reasoning by the poster, which I evidently disagreed to.</p>
<p>Again, let's revisit your unbiasedness:</p>
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to anyone actually listening to dhl3, hes going to ucla, so uh, that says it all.
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<p>Which (again) led me to the same two conclusions mentioned before. </p>
<p>But really, I'm not attacking or insulting you. I am just clarifiying some of the "misunderstanding" going on here ;)</p>
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i am on the fence about whether or not im going to ucla or berk, so I dont know!
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<p>I don't think that's much of a dilemma for you, is it?</p>
<p>hey, im just playing an advocate here, stop taking it so seriously.</p>
<p>by finals time next semester we'll all be hating whatever school we chose anyway</p>
<p>we'll adjust to the traditional rivalry.</p>
<p>During any sports events, if it's Cal vs Stanford I'll be cheering for Cal. If it's UCLA vs USC, Cal ppl will be cheering for UCLA. Except Laguna cuz he's just lame like that :P</p>
<p>I'm not going to either school, but it really sounds like UCLA might be a better fit.</p>
<p>For the original poster,</p>
<p>Anthropology. Hmm. I expect you'd like Cal a lot if you choose to matriculate. The department is one of the smaller ones and you'd get pretty small and intimate classes with the professors.</p>
<p>That the professors are among the best in their fields in the world is merely a bonus--and I do mean that, since in undergraduate, it is far more important to know your professors well and learn well.</p>
<p>The strongest advantage over UCLA is likely the research, which Cal is somewhat stronger on in terms of number of projects open to undergraduates within the particular field. Undoubtedly, some people will debate that, but I merely go by the number of available research projects I see posted--if you get to know your professors well, which you likely will (and as an Anthro major, that will be whether you like it or not), you can just ask to participate in research with them. </p>
<p>Whatever you choose, I'm sure you'd be quite happy. The anthropology/geography/similar majors are very strong at both UC Berkeley and UCLA.</p>
<p>I do have to stress again, though, that the transfer student orientation/whatever-that-was was a very bad representation of what you would find on campus. It didn't help that it was situated in the middle of finals where the social environment isn't very active, to say the least.</p>
<p>What should concern you more is the specific department--which in your case is a good one in terms of enjoying your studies.</p>
<p>While I would urge you to do more research, the fact that finals are going on right now means visits will be of minimal help. Also, these boards aren't exactly the best place to find representative statements, as I found during my college search process last year.</p>
<p>Whatever you do, transfer, best of luck to you.</p>
<p>P.S. Following up on my advisor comment though--I wouldn't exactly rave about the advisors at Berkeley, but neither would I do so for the ones at UCLA.
If you do come here, I suggest you get to know some professors well and "adopt" them as your advisors instead.</p>
<p>if the getty was near berkeley, i would have chosen berkeley (that is, if i got in)....however, the getty center and the villa is REALLY close to ucla, so to la i must go!! </p>
<p>why is it that world famous museums are close together??</p>
<p>there's the louvre and d'orsay facing each other across the river Seine...guggenhein and modern art in a new york street... norton simon and huntington library . ..</p>
<p>sauron i totally wish la's museum scene was at berkeley, too. :( the sfmoma is sooo small.</p>
<p>IT seems everyone is giving great advise here so....</p>
<p>I GOT INTO HAAS BUT LOVE UCLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>i know haas is supposed to be better but i really feel at home with UCLA and I dont like the berkeley campus...</p>
<p>what would you do?</p>
<p>Prince, just go where you want to go. The whole point of working is so you can get your education and have fun as well. You can get the education at either school, so just go where you want and think you will have fun.</p>
<p>Agreed, Prince. All of these replies have been really helpful.</p>
<p>Allorion: I really enjoyed reading your post on Berkeley's anthropology department. One of my main worries (in general, not just limited to Cal or UCLA) is that class sizes will be too large and impersonal. If many of the upper-division anthropology courses truly are "pretty small and intimate," that's definitely a good thing. When you say small, though, how small would you say the classes are in the anthropology department (if you know)?</p>
<p>UCLA is the same size as cal, so i dont know why everyone is trippin about size, they are the same!!</p>
<p>mojojojo: I'm aware that Berkeley and UCLA's anthropology class sizes are about the same. I'm trying to get an idea of the average class size for upper-div anthropology courses in general--not just limited to Berkeley or UCLA--since I really don't know. (I'm deviating from my original post for a second.)</p>
<p><a href="http://schedule.berkeley.edu/srchfall.html%5B/url%5D">http://schedule.berkeley.edu/srchfall.html</a></p>
<p>Upper Division/Anthro</p>
<p>Lecture: 15-90 students
Discussion: Under 20</p>