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cal is less competitive than cal
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<p>that makes sense ;)</p>
<p>wow that was hella quick ;)</p>
<p>lostincode,</p>
<p>Have you taken classes at both?</p>
<p>lostincode - have you already transferred - j/w.</p>
<p>nope not yet.</p>
<p>I took a class at ucla over the summer and it was competitive--but not as competitive as I thought it would be.. perhaps due to there being many graduate students in the class? (they were generally less 'competitive' than undergrads). Also, my roommates (pre-meds) and friends there told me that ucla students were not exactly cutthroat.</p>
<p>I did not take classes at cal. But when I visited my friends there they were studying their asses off trying to get on the better end of the curve. The entire atmosphere was different--that lightbulb joke was actually very accurate. They often told me that the place was "too smart for them," whereas my friends at ucla didn't have to study hard for the A's.</p>
<p>I know that my convenient samples probably do not represent the populations too well, but that's just what I feel.</p>
<p>for hummanities (art history to be specific) which school is better?<br>
i just feel that ucla is better because it's located really close to the getty.</p>
<p>is there any famous museums around berkeley?</p>
<p>well SF is a really artistic city so I wouldn't base your decision off of that.</p>
<p>Art History majors don't necessarily make art themselves, so I don't know if they could feed off from an artistic environment such as SF. On the other hand, he is correct that the Getty and LACMA, having great collections of world art, would be a more appropraite place for students of Art.</p>
<p>They're both great schools. Berkeley has one of the top undergrad b-schools in the country if you go that route, and its economics program ranks among the top nationally (and can get you placed anywhere, if you do well in the mathematically based program). My advice: visit both schools, get a feel for which you like better and go there.</p>
<p>Choose Berkeley. That way, when I appeal for admission, they will see that one of their admitted students did not decide to enroll and they will admit me :)</p>
<p>well if your planning on attending grad school, thats waat really counts. yes after your initial graduation, employers look for prestiege, but grad schools looks at GPA and experience. So yes Berkeley is more presteigious, but if UCLA has better internships, or maybe "easier" to get a better GPA, then i would recommend that. Although if you get a chance to go to Berkeley, then you take it.</p>
<p>Snake805,</p>
<p>I don't know how much of a leg up Berkeley really is. Both UCLA and Berkeley are on a pretty similar playing field for most things, and neither one is going to be easier or harder in the long run.</p>
<p>At the point of Cal vs. UCLA, fit should be the primary concern.</p>
<p>Well if you read waat i said, its all about grad school. And where I come from Berkeley is better.</p>
<p>Snake805,</p>
<p>Yes, Berkeley still has a leg up on the prestige scale.</p>
<p>However, for grad school admissions, Berkeley does not have a huge advantage, if any advantage at all.</p>
<p>Cal all the way!!!!</p>
<p>dhl3,</p>
<p>Judging by your overconfidence on getting into two of the best schools in the nation, you belong at Stanford or USC. Please go there.</p>
<p>GO BEARS!</p>
<p>I don't really see why attacking the OP is necessary to help flesh out this debate.</p>
<p>dhl, seriously the prestige factor is not going to matter when looking for a job. Recruiters in LA salivate when they see UCLA (business econ) and USC (Marshall) grads. You are going to have no problem finding a job here. UCLA’s reputation in Northern California is also very strong. I have friends at both schools. The biggest complaint I’ve heard about the two schools are regarding the large lower division classes, but as a transfer student, that’s not going to be a problem for you. Everyone I know who goes to (or went to) UCLA (25+ people) loved it. I have a friend who graduated from UCB and now is a grad student at Stanford. He described his time at Berkeley as “the worst four years of his life”. He is enjoying Stanford immensely. Other people from my school who currently attend Berkeley seem to enjoy it. They are all Asian females and Berkeley’s about 50 % Asian (UCLA is closer to 40 %).</p>
<p>Visit both schools and see which one you like better. I’m from LA and I’ve been at school in the bay area for close to two years. The people here are different. Most are friendly, but you are going to have your fair share of white guys who think they’re black. The girls at Berkeley are pretty beastly. On the plus side, there’s a lot to do in the town of Berkeley. There are a fair number of homeless teams though. The campus of Berkeley is beautiful and you are close to both Oakland and San Francisco. Your decision should come down to what school you feel most comfortable at. If you go to school in Berkeley, you are not going to be stuck working in the Bay Area. The same goes for UCLA.</p>
<p>It sounds like you are leaning towards UCLA, but the prestige factor is still lingering in your head. Get over that and make your decision on where you think you’ll fit in. College is supposed to be one of the most enjoyable times of your life. Too many people are concerned about rankings and overlook the social scene.</p>
<p>You've convinced me. I am going to go pick UCLA BizEcon over UCB Econ (if I'm accepted to both).</p>
<p>how about ucb haas vs ucla bizecon? ucla is undoubtedly my first love. my personality fits better there. but i can manage at ucb. haas seems too good a program to pass up, but i hear it's cutthroat competitive. on the other hand, i have only visited ucla.. but i'm from the bay area. your thoughts?</p>