<p>After a flurry of rejects by matches and rejects, I am left with only my safeties, UCLA and UC Berkeley. </p>
<p>I want a career in finance. I was awarded a regents scholarship to UCLA, but I was rejected for the Berkeley regents scholarship. Which school will help me the most? UCLA seems to have a location advantage, but I am not sure if their graduates are respected at all. The business economics program does not seem prestigious while the Haas business program is ranked 3rd in the nation. </p>
<p>Can someone convince me otherwise with statistics or facts? I have asked questions about business economics to current UCLA students and most became highly defensive saying nothing more than "UCLA is just as prestigious as Berkeley" or that "In business it is how charming you are as a person rather than the school you graduate from or what you know." or "If you work hard, you can find opportunities at UCLA." I plan to work hard at either university. At which university will hard work take me farther?</p>
<p>UCLA and Berkeley are safeties for no one. (That sort of arrogance almost makes me want to ignore this post altogether.)</p>
<p>UCLA, obviously, since the money is better there. The business program is prestigious enough, and UCLA is very prestigious in its own right. You'll go far at either. Where you currently stand, UCLA seems the best option.</p>
<p>4.6, 2390, 800 on 3 sat 2s, some ok ECs, ELC, plus the fact that roughly 30% of my school (I am a val) gets into cal and la leads me to consider those schools safeties. Maybe I did sound arrogant, and for that I apologize.</p>
<p>No, even with that, they still aren't safeties. They can be safe matches, but you're talking about some of the top colleges in America (and indeed the world). You've gotten too cocky with your SAT scores; I'm not too surprised you didn't get into the other schools.</p>
<p>sat should have some effect on admissions even if the knowledge tested is basic, and besides with 30% of the school getting in each year and being a val, I think I would have a decently high chance of getting in (which is what you would call a safety, I think). But anyways, safe match or safety, could anyone else illuminate me on how much bruins biz econs are paid as compared to bear biz admins? I like UCLA, but I also like berkeley. I want the regents scholarship, but i can't help but feel i am giving up the 3rd best undergrad biz program for an unranked program at ucla. </p>
<p>could anyone tell me some more pros and cons?</p>
<p>Anyone invited to compete for the Regents scholarship can/could have considered UCLA to be a safety, unless being in the top 2% of the applicant pool (using a holistic approach, since everyone seems to think that the admissions process is made so much more godly by appending that word) is not good enough to be a lock-in for admission. </p>
<p>As for your decision, I would encourage you to take UCLA. While undoubtedly Berkeley is more prestigious, UCLA is a very respected name as well, and the Berkeley name is not worth $22,000 (UCLA Regents x four years) more than UCLA's. If you ever want to have a Berkeley diploma, there is always graduate school.</p>
<p>BTW, if you lost out on the Berkeley R&C scholarship, I would guess that it signifies that you didn't have one area of extracurriculars that you really focused on.</p>
<p>I too would go with UCLA. Mostly becuase the money, but also because you aren't assured a spot at Haas even if you come to Berkeley. Unless you have some serious objections with UCLA, I think it would be in you best interest to go there, save money and try for Haas for Grad school.</p>
<p>Seriously, do you honestly believe that UCLA grads are not respected? Only on this site would that even be a possibility. UCLA grads do very well.</p>
<p>But I suggest you look at top firms and notice that they recruit at BOTH UCLA and Cal. That should tell you something. Oh, and enough Cal vs. UCLA threads...</p>
<p>I think people on here are jaded. Here, UCLA is often "looked down" on. In the real world, it causes jaws to drop. (Seriously, one kid at my school got in and everyone was freaking out.)</p>
<p>Just a sideline note. You mentioned that you were interested in taking business, and someone mentioned that UCLA has a top-flight business school. </p>
<p>This is true, but the business school is only for graduates, not undergraduates. UC Berkeley and UC Riverside are the only two UCs with undergraduate business programs, and at UC Berkeley you have to apply for it during your sophomore year for acceptance in the junior year (and only about 45% or so get in). </p>
<p>I still think you should go to UCLA (I got my MBA from there) and take the money, but if it's business you MUST take as an undergraduate, then UC Berkeley is the right option for you.</p>
<p>And as far as acceptances being tough at top schools this year, check out this link:</p>