<p>I got into Berkeley for spring (doing FPF if i go), and UCLA for fall, both as undeclared. I know that Cal has a really good business program (I mean, cmon it's Haas) and I am going to try to get into it.... but I love the atomosphere at UCLA and its distance from home. I've lived in NorCal my whole life and really want a change, but UCLA doesn't even offer a real business major, it is "business economics". Should I pick a school based on prestige and academic, or overall feel?! Hurry because I have to make my decision in like 4 days! THANKS!!! =)</p>
<p>for the sake of your own happiness go with ucla, the way you say you love the atmosphere at ucla, already shows that you'll be happier there.</p>
<p>go to ucla. nothing guarantees you admissions to haas and nothing guarantees you admissions to business econ, you might as well be at a place that you like the environment of.</p>
<p>Have you ever been to SoCal? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>go to ucb...for obvious reasons</p>
<p>listen to what you write, you know the right decision for you. You say you want to get away from home, you like the atmosphere, you pretty much say its a better fit for you.</p>
<p>Not only that, when you start in the spring you face a different environment than the rest of the frosh who started in the fall. In Sept. everyone is new and looking to make friends, is a bit lost and overwhelmed by the whole experience. In the spring they're old hands at it, know their way around campus and have their favorite haunts, have made groups of friends. Now you enter as the newbie. I'm not saying it won't work, but its a lot easier to start when everyone else is in the same boat.</p>
<p>There are only two UC's that offer an undergrad degree in biz, and UCLA ain't one of them. Biz-econ is an excellent program, but it's not an undergraduate business degree. Thus, it depends on what you want to do IMMEDIATELy after college.</p>
<p>bluebayou, I know I'm going to be a business women =) and I plan on working for 2-3 years right after I get out of college and then go to grad school on the east coast. </p>
<p>mikemac, I am already guaranteed a spot in the FPF program at berkeley (which is for students who got admitted to spring to attend berkeley in the fall; it is held AT berkeley, so there's not much of a difference from fall admission, i think)</p>
<p>hope that clears up some things!</p>
<p>UCLA is not at a disadvantage when it comes to job offers. An undergraduate business degree is not necessary for finance or accounting. UC Berkeley offers no more finance/accounting classes than UCLA. The number of finance classes are about equal (Berkeley might have one more), and for accounting Biz Econ major requires a lot of accounting courses taken at Anderson (taught by Anderson faculty) and the accounting minor prepares you for the CPA. If you want to plan on an immediate career such as marketing right out of college then UC Berkeley may give you more opportunities since the degree from Haas offers makreting courses.</p>
<p>Some of the investment banks that recruit at UCLA: Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, UBS, Morgan Stanley</p>
<p>Consulting: Bain & Company, Boston Consulting</p>
<p>The Big 4 Accounting Firms</p>
<p>Haas - Uses name/ranking/prestige to its advantage and maybe rightfully so (arguably SF location).
UCLA - Uses the city or location to its advantage.</p>
<p>Obviously the students at UCLA would be more directed to finance as they don't have a pure business major. Business/economics probably wouldn't lead to many of the industries Haas will. I would say go to Berkeley if you feel you can get into Haas or just don't know which area of business you will get into yet. </p>
<p>I read somewhere that Berkeley actually does receive more offers than UCLA in most fields, but because of the high demand and popularity for consulting in particular (high tech), many companies have eased up on the emphasis on the campus. </p>
<p>It shouldn't come as too much of a shock that goldman, merrill, or morgan recruit at UCLA or Berkeley, as they recruit in many places, including many colleges we have never even heard of (MS and Goldman in particular). </p>
<p>The big advantage to UCLA is the life there. If it suits you, you'll probably love it there. I know a lot of people who end up working for companies who give free rides for MBAs at USC or back at Anderson. Needless to say, the same can be said for Berkeley as many companies across the nation do this, you just don't hear about it as much.</p>
<p>In the end, you should go where you want to go. Because the truth is both UCLA and Berkeley are pretty big enough names that you could work virtually anywhere on the west coast. Although to be honest, I knew I would go to Berkeley, even though I felt more at home at LA.</p>
<p>Nice post FilmmakerJack, so what school did you decide on?</p>
<p>Thanks filmmakerjack, I think I've decided on UCLA :)</p>