PASSHE System Review Underway…
New Model for Cheney…
@portercat - and so it begins!! Open up the mail last night - letter from Kutztown, where my son doesn’t want to go. They have instituted a new 40% tuition reduction for out of state kids! Total cost for us is now under $20k!! It’s killing me!!! I’m saying my prayers that Millersville’s and Bloomsburg’s letter are just slow to arrive! Lol
@NJWrestlingmom Interesting, but a little confusing. So its cheaper to be an out of state student than an in-state student? Why are we paying taxes in PA? Thanks for the info.
Just looked it up. You are correct, but I am still confused how they can do this? They must be kind of desperate.
I don’t know! I didn’t even pay attention to the in-state numbers- how much is it if you live in PA? I’m sure they are banking on getting a lot of NJ kids- Our NJ states are about $25k, but live in the new dorms and that gets much closer to $30k. I really wish Kutztown was at the top of his list now!!!
Doing the calculations, tuition with 40% discount would be $5428 per semester for an OOS student and $3619 per semester for an in-state student, so still a little more OOS, but not that much different. This does not include fees, room and board.
Disclaimer - my calculations may not be perfect!
I did it based on the year -$15,312 with the discount comes to $9,188 or $4,594 per semester. Either way, a good deal!
@NJWrestlingmom I would contact Millersville and/or Bloomsburg to see if they offer something similar. Kutztown was up front in advertising it, not sure about the other 2.
Here is some info on Out of State Discounts for Millersville based on profile:
http://www.millersville.edu/admissions/undergrad/out-of-state-residents.php
We did get that offer from Millersville. It’s not as low as Kutztown, but does bring it down to Rowan range. I don’t think we got anything from Bloomsburg. I have to dig out all the papers tonight.,it seems Kutztown is in the most danger out of the 3 and that’s why they are doing this? We did get a letter from Bloomsburg acknowledging the PASSHE study, but it just said not to worry and don’t let it impact your decision. Worth a phone call anyway if either makes the final cut!
Hopefully they will all follow suit. Seems like a win/win for both the OOS students as well as the colleges to boost enrollment.
Yep, it would be nice to see if the study could best figure out how to boost enrollment. Is it better to attract OOS students, or in-state students who might be going elsewhere who would be better served with scholarships at in-state schools since they actually pay taxes in the state? I understand how the discount serves OOS students, but would a “discount” be better directed elsewhere? Just looking at it from the PA taxpayer side of things.
Saving Lock Haven’s Track Team???
http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/03/track_team_members_make_last_d.html
Tough decisions for Edinboro…
http://www.goerie.com/news/20170322/eup-assessment-underscores-tough-decisions-ahead
Layoffs at Mansfield…
http://www.pennlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/03/mansfield_university_notifies.html
PASSHE better find away to generate some positive PR or else those politicians that wanted to see the system destroyed will be getting their way.
I think they need to do both. Attract in state first no doubt but bringing in others who will increase enrollment that generally do not even contemplate going OOS can only be an asset. In NJ where we now live I know of only a handful of students who go to a PASSHE school and they all are athletes.After following this thread there definitely is enough room in these schools to increase both of the subgroups. If enrollment continues to decrease either schools will close or tuition will rise to offset the lost revenue.
They should do a better job of having inter-state agreements where tuition rates cross state lines. I know many southern states do this.
That Mansfield announcement is indeed the first shoe to drop. Ironic in that they just had a strike to demand better wages, which most students supported. I didn’t know that part of the contract requires a lead time and announcement before layoffs. I don’t necessarily place the blame for this mess on the professors for asking for more, but some of these schools have serious problems,
We actually considered Mansfield but ended up crossing it off because they had recently cut some majors. Never a good sign! As long as this is a story, unfortunately their numbers will keep dropping.
A few updates…
Finally an article that discusses not only the decrease in enrollment but the reduction of funding(Mansfield)…
Lock Haven dropping Indoor Track…http://www.lockhaven.com/news/local-news/2017/03/lhu-to-drop-mens-indoor-track/
Mergers in PA’s Higher Education…https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/03/27/mergers-havent-been-part-pennsylvania-public-higher-eds-past-might-future-be
“To complicate matters further, the system is not the only provider of public higher education in Pennsylvania. It operates separately from the state-related and better-known Pennsylvania State University, University of Pittsburgh, Temple University and Lincoln University, which receive some state funding but have more autonomy. Many have criticized Penn State for operating a network of campuses seen as competing with PASSHE institutions, a charge its leaders deny. PASSHE also does not include any of the community colleges operating in the state.”
“It’s a crazy-quilt system,” Jarin said. “The reality is there should be a comprehensive look at the community college system, the state system and the Penn State system. And something different should come out of it.”
That insiderhighered article is the most comprehensive one yet, with a good comparison to the situation in Georgia. Keep them coming @bester1 ! Thanks.
Great insidehighered article. Showing how difficult any change will be, this sentence is perfect:
… the Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education is laced with tripwires for anyone trying to pull off mergers, affiliations or closures.
PASSHE receives - $60 Million less than it did in 2008. The decline in enrollment is not that much. This is really about funding yet they keep turning to enrollment basing on a system wide peak in 2010.